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If you want an SD Card for your camera - these are the ones I use and recommend. 

I'd strongly recommend not to buy any SD cards off ebay - I've heard about too many issues with counterfeit cards - often sold on by unwitting resellers. My inbox regularly gets messages from people who bought a £150 camera then cheaped out and bought a £3 memory card on ebay - Then when it doesn't worth they blame the camera! It doesn't make any sense. Good memory is cheaper than it's ever been - see the links above.

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To give you an idea of the extent of the fake goods problem. In a 2016 survey by Apple - 90% of the 'Apple' chargers sold through Amazon - using the other the two methods..which includes the "Fulfilled by Amazon" option -  were found to be counterfeit....90%! 


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Christmas presents... The 808#16 Camera.

I finished editing this video together at 1:30 this morning (Christmas day) - I was more than a bit punchy when I finished, so I can't tell whether it's informative and interesting or self indulgent and annoying, but it's too late to change anything now anyway - so here it is.

If you want to know everything about this mini camera - as mentioned in the video, you really need to get yourself over to the RC Groups Forum and Chuck Lohr's excellent site . On the RC Groups forum You'll even find links to some excellent PDF instructions

Right, I'm off to have some turkey, hope you are all having a good Christmas and you got something you wanted (I'll be playing about with my 3DS after lunch).

29/12/11 UPDATE - Contrary to what I said in the review, it has since been discovered that the Webcam Function does not have sound. This is not the end of the world and I'm confident that no one buys this camera just to use it as a webcam - but I thought you should know.

As far as the FOV goes, yes the older #11 and Jumbo cameras do have a wider Field Of View than the #16- not massively so, but it it there. I tried to do some side by side comparison shots to show you how much there was in it - but unfortunately I've irreversibly managed to mess up the focus on my #16 camera and no amount of fiddling will sharpen it up. I'm going to order another one from eletoponline365, but in the meantime, further testing is postponed.

I bought mine from his seller

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Reader Comments (67)

I hope there will be a 808 #16 jumbo cam so that you can record about 100 minutes..
Or is it already developed ? :-)

January 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCHris

I've just purchased an 808#16 camera & amazed with the video quality. I've noticed a lot of "white noise" in the background when I speak on a video clip. Just wondering is there any solution to this problem. I've updated the firmware to 0.18 (the latest). Thanks again for your wonderful reviews which encouraged me to purchase this camera ~~ Mike

February 19, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike

Fantastic review! Thanks for the time you invest in these. I went out and bought the #16 from the seller you recommended and love the camera! I appear to have some how damaged the surface of the lens however as there is now a constant 'mirky' look to the footage. Is there anywhere that I can buy a replacement lens?

February 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJustin

Great picture for such a small size camera! Dont expect great video if shooting on the move or during overcast days, however low price,quality of picture and microsize overcome the prementioned drawbacks.

February 21, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterdave

1. Can you tell me if I can buy this from some online shop from Europe? From USA or China is not good because of high importing taxes.
2. Do you know where to write to authors of firmware about bugs or requests?

March 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMtz

Hello, I like the simple USB stick-style (think pack of gum), which works well in a variety of project spaces. It's also easier to adapt into, say, a waterproof housing. I understand why the fob: easy to get from an mfg, already set up to store electronics/batt/signaling. AUSB stick might work well too: plug on one end, lens on the other.

Most of the DIY folk are handy with modifications but the mfg could provide an H2O case as an accessory, similar to underwater cams. The H20 case could have a threaded cam mount, which would bolt to endless options. Not much weight penalty and a simpler package than redesigning a watertight primary unit. If they could figure out how to deal with light loss issues from extra layers, the secondary case could include a lens mount for filters, fisheye, etc. Again, keep the primary unit simple, then offer a second shell for other features. You can then upgrade the "guts" as designs improve without throwing out everything. Not sure where to put the PIR though....

Here's a wildcard: I've seen one device where it just continuously records, but doesn't save anything until you tap a button. Then it saves the most recent segment. This works great if you're filming action and can keep just the good clips (sort of like "the best photo is the one that just happened" feature). Also massively saves on memory and reduces editing. The duration should be user-settable, maybe short/med/long would work with a single button (and firmware modifiable?!?).

March 19, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterKAP


I am looking for this camera, but while searching on eletoponline365 shop on ebay, they list the #16 808 as 720p. And the specs only talk about 720p, no 1080p. They list both, #11 and #16, both as 720p, and #16 as 720p. And this happens in every single entry of the #16 camera...
Did you get any feedback from them? Have they changed the camera specs?
Thank you in advance for any help.

March 23, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCalvinH

@CalvinH. The 808#16 is 720p.

March 23, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

what do you do with your gadgets when you become bored of them? you must have a whole cupboard full by now. P.S. you should become a presenter. maybe gadget show or something to do with James May. Forget everyone else, you definitely have the VOICE.

March 31, 2012 | Unregistered Commentergekko

Hi Techmoan,

What is the minimum focal distance of this camera? I imagine not too close as it is a fixed focus lens?

As for fixing, I don't think the keyfob is too bad an idea but they could integrate it with an rubber band style loop like some of the new LED bike lights on the market. If you look at this pic you'll see the idea:

you could then attach the camera to tubes or anything of a similar diametre

April 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterdavidof

The focus is made for about 3m. Close photo is not clear at all.
If this camera was made for "spy" you can imagine at what distance could be the action in some normal room to record that activity.

April 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMtz

I am wondering if you could do a little test for me. I would like to know how quickly the camera can go from a power off status to recording. In my application, I am looking for cameras that can very quickly start recording. Could you please test how quickly you can press the power on and then the record buttons to start the recording. Get your stopwatch out and test from the pressing of the power button until the recording starts. Thank you.

I really appreciate the work you do to test these devices. You present the information in a very informative and entertaining way.

April 24, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTom

afterI record the video, I try to play them put they will not play.... What video codec do you need to use to play the vids....I've tried VLC, Quicktime, Realplayer, and Windows and none of them work

April 27, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterBMAN


Try this free codec pack, D/L the "Mega" pack.

Solved many problems for me.

April 27, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike

OOPS, here it is !

April 27, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike

Download the k-lite codec pack.

April 27, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Hi all,
it should by nice have case like MD80 minicam with custom clips

May 2, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDavid.A3

Hi everybody, just got the camera today and charged the camera right away.

Here's a side question: Although stated that the camera should charge 2-3 hours for the first time, after half an hour the light went off and it seems that it's full charged. Should I expect future charging/low charging issues in the future?

And the real question is, like said above, I could charge the camera, but my pc (and another laptop) does not recognize the external device in order to copy the files. Is there a way to solve this besides buying a micro sd card reader?

Thanks for your time!

May 3, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterZak

If the camera will record 40-45 minutes, the battery is OK and full charged.
Read the manual from here:
Also you can use that program to setup your camera.


May 3, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMtz

For anybody that is wondering whether or not the lens can be turned 90 degrees. I was able to do it with out breaking the connectors, and it works fine. Just apply a piece of electrical tape to the circuit board to prevent shorts and use super glue to glue the lens 90 degrees and drill a hole where the lens will be and it works great!

May 9, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCody

^For clarification I meant super glue the lens to the tape.

May 9, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCody

Great reviews Techmoan!

If suggestions are still being considered I'd second this idea:

>Hi all,
>it should by nice have case like MD80 minicam with custom clips
>May 2, 2012 | David.A3

The MD80 has a great form factor for mounting and even looks quite nice, a proper looking camera. That type of case must also be widely available since there are so many knock-offs.

The biggest investment for the manufacturer must be designing new rectangular circuit boards but hopefully this process is underway. Is there any news on when the new model might be released?

I know its not a common usage but I was wondering a few things about webcam functionality.

Can the 808#16 be used as a webcam indefinitely? Does it draw sufficient power from the computer's USB lead or is it limited to its own battery run time? Does the same apply for the 808#11 and 808#11Jumbo which seem to require one type of USB lead for data and a different type of lead for power? Can the battery plug be disconnected inside the case for webcam mode so as not to use up the battery's limited cycles?

I was also interested to know if these most recent 808s are IR sensitive. Will IR illumination indoors at close range give better visibility in the dark or does the camera's IR-cut filter block the IR completely?

Thanks again for your reviews Techmoan, informative and very enjoyable. Looking forward to future updates!

May 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJim

Is there a trick for making this camera work as a webcam on a laptop with WIN7. It works for me on desktop with XP. Device shows up in ControlPanel; I click on it and video displays on screen. With WIN7 the device shows up in Devices and Printers, but when I click on it, I get box that says USB PC Camera Properties with two sections-- General and Hardware. No video. Notes state that the device is working properly. Any help would be appreciated.

I am conecting my 808 #16 to a IR cut filter switch and a m12 IR lens so I can take day color and night IR videos. I want to focus using the laptop with WIN7 on it.

May 15, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertom

Great video. As you know some people mount the #16 camera on model airplanes where weight is key.

I've come up with a special cable that will allow you to remove the battery alltogether and power the 808 #16 camera off of the receiver's 5VDC. This makes the entire aircraft lighter and the recording will no longer be limited by the keychain camera's little battery. CHECK IT OUT!

May 18, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterFlyvideo

Great video. As you know some people mount the #16 camera on model airplanes where weight is key.

I've come up with a special cable that will allow you to remove the battery alltogether and power the 808 #16 camera off of the receiver's 5VDC. This makes the entire aircraft lighter and the recording will no longer be limited by the keychain camera's little battery. CHECK IT OUT by searching for "808 #16 receiver cable" on Ebay.

May 18, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterFlyvideo

I've just found a in car apdator that outputs 5.4v would this still be safe to use in the 808 #16 I just got? just double checking and not sure exactly where to look it up in the forums as there seems to be a hell of alot of information in there

May 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew Barnett

The 5.4V is the voltage w/o a load.

i was also thinking of using an 808 in a car, as a tiny dash cam. it has loop recording (but review mentions a loss of 3 sec btwn clips, but clips of 70min should solve this) and can record during charging

but am not sure if it has
-acceptable night video quality (compared with a k2000)
-wide enough field of vision
-start recording when charging (when receiving 12v)

May 26, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterbw


Thanks for all the time and effort that you put into your reviews.

Mine's a non technical question.

I am wondering if anyone in your audience resides in Canada and has purchased an 808 #16 camera from eletoponline365.

If so, may I know what the import duty, taxes and Canada Post handling fee amounted to, please ? Thanks.

May 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCurious

They never seem to sell the cameras in £ which doesn't help. Strangely, they do sell other items in £.

June 2, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterIaing

I just received my #16 spy camera from eletoponline365 but it seems to suffer badly from dropped frames in the video. Audio is fine, but the video is freezing momentarily at least every second. Anyone know how to fix this? I tried two different Class 4 memory cards, and one Class 10 SD card.

September 23, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterFoiler

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