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Sunday
Jan082012

The RD32II 1080p .h264 Sport Cam

 

General

This video took a lot longer than I anticipated, but here it is. I've uploaded part 1 in 720p and part 2 in 1080p. This was to avoid oddballs asking what was the point of doing a 720p review of a 1080p camera (as happened with my Extreme camera review). However this isn't really a solution to the problem because Youtube's 720p and 1080p video both bear very little relation to the footage that was originally shot by the camera.

I've converted the video and then editied it and then converted it again and then uploaded it to youtube which converted it again - you can therefore appreciate the fact that the footage you see on youtube doesn't really do justice to the quality of the originals. For example, the Youtube clips start off jerky and then smooth out after a few seconds...the originals of course don't do this.

This isn't a unique problem, if you read any photography magazines they are reviewing multimegapixel cameras and printing credit card sized sample shots on low dpi paper. Car magazines don't let you test the car out, AV magazines try and describe sound quality etc etc.... So like those examples all I can really do is give you an indication of the quality, not a direct demonstration of it.

As I mentioned in the video - the .h264 avi files created by this camera could not be imported into my iMovie so I had to spend a day converting them using MPEG Streamclip into .mp4 files. This was a major inconvenience and something that will probably stop me from using the camera again in the future. Now I'm using a Mac with iMovie. I haven't tried these in Final Cut or any PC editing package, so they may import fine into other editing packages.

Downloadable Test Clips

Therefore  to enable you to test out the original footage from this camera with your own editing packages or just play back some unmolested clips - I have uploaded a few short clips. These are all 1920x1080p 30fps clips you can download them here.

If you just want my opinion and all you want to do is film clear sharp HD footage and don't want to edit it on a Mac in iMovie, then I would strongly recommend this camera. I know that I mentioned the footage had a blue tinge, but unless I had put it up side by side with the Extreme cam, I don't think I'd have noticed it and I also wouldn't have noticed how much more vibrant the colours were on the RD32II either. The footage is very smooth without a dropped frame in sight and the sound quality is totally acceptable for a camera of this sort.

More Info

If you want to see the Camera on the Manufacturer's page here is a link. You can look at the specifications here, which tell you things like you can fit 41 mins of 1080p or 720p 60 video on a 4GB card, the recording battery life is 2.5hrs (it's 1.5 with the torch lit at the same time), charge time is 3 hours and the camera weighs 86g.

Photos

I'm really taken with the 5MP fisheye photos too, they can turn out surprisingly well. My technique when taking a photo is to take four or five shots of each scene, pointing the camera at a slightly different angle each time. When I get home I download the photos and choose the best framed picture of each scene. It reminds me of the days of getting films developed and hurriedly flicking through the envelope of photos hoping that I managed to get a good shot or two - but without all the expense. I've uploaded a gallery of photos from this camera here.

Where can you buy one.

I've seen this camera on sale for about $145 or £90 including shipping (budget for import duties too) which seems a little bit high, although it's early days - something like £75 would seem even more right. Whatever you do though, don't get it mixed up with the original RD32, that one takes 720p mjpeg video and isn't a patch on this. Look out for .h264, 1080p and laser mentioned in the specs- and don't expect it to always be called the RD32II either. 

Places I've found selling this camera are below (Dealextreme also sell the mounting accessory pack).

Ebay

Yellow Camera At Dealextreme 

Black Camera at Dealextreme

The Accessory Pack at Dealextreme 

Part 1 and 2 of the review are below - but view these full screen in HD to get a better idea, and don't try to view the 1080p versions on an old computer unless you have a fire extinguisher at the ready.

 

 

UPDATE: 15/01/12 Importing the Video into editing packages - For iMovie users, you may want to try out a piece of software that was suggested to me by a reader - FLVCrunch, an easy way to convert the files into MP4s which can then be imported into the Apple editing package. Also look in the youtube comments for people reporting back with their results when using other software - the clips from this camera are reportedly working fine with Windows Live Movie Maker, Adobe Premiere and Vegas 9.0b.

UPDATE: 17/01/12 I've had a few requests for downloadable 720p 60fps Clips - which is understandable as youtube can only display 30fps as can my editing package. So ..here is a link to a single clip (24mb)....and here is a zip file containing that clip and another five as well (173mb). If your computer is anything like mine, you may only get the full 60fps effect if you view these full screen. 

UPDATE: 01/03/12 Dealextreme now stock this camera & The Accessory Pack (Essential for mounting it to things other than a bicycle) Links have been added to the sellers section above.

 

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Reader Comments (130)

Nice review, good job.
Can you tell me please, what's the weight of this camera? I can't find it anywhere.

Thanks.

January 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTrinom

@Trinom - It's 86g. Since it's easy to miss in the paragraphs above, I've now changed it to a bold font.

January 15, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Good review again! thx for making and sharing it.

About the editing package. You are using a apple computer. Why don't you use Adobe Premiere Pro. It handles both .MOV and .AVI files, never had a problem with it.
I know it's expencif, but you can try it for free before buying or downloading it (no i dont say you have to download it, because thats illegal, but when you do thats your own choice)

i hope there will be more reviews very soon.
I have the jumbo 808 camera. But i'm still looking for an camera which has an pen view angle. So i can stick it on my chest to make some footage. In some cases i need that. And it has to be at least as good as the jumbo 808.

cheers!

January 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRutger

@Rutger I'd rather not change the editing package I use, I'm used to iMovie, understand it's features and have memorised it's keyboard shortcuts and it does (virtually) everything I need.
I was pointing out the problem with importing into iMovie, to warn others who this might be a problem for. It seems that people are also experiencing issues with Sony Vegas, so I'm glad I brought it up. I've finished my testing of this camera now...and it will probably get very little use from here on, so it's not really a big problem for me.
As far as pen style cameras as good as the Jumbo 808, (if you haven't already) you should consider the KGB Marker Pen Spy Camera - the only thing it's lacking is a wider angle lens.

January 15, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Thank you for another great review! I think comparing this one with the
Extreme Cam was a good decision.
I'm willing to bet that this one's colors are more vivid because its gain is
boosted a bit even in brighter light. I'll have to go back to the Extreme Cam
review to see if gain was an optional adjustment- seems I remember it was. Or
was that another cam? That would explain the bloom effect this one gives in
lower light. About 1/3rd of the amount of gain might make the Extreme more
competitive in low light.
The simultaneous record and RCA vid out [via mini USB] makes this a
no-brainer choice for FPV for me and the Extreme for great time lapsed stills.
I'm stoked. Thanks again!
P.S. Looks like you are on your way back to being able to model gloves again! ; )

January 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob

I think that even if the results are fine, it is just too expensive to be a real option for the established alternatives, such as GoPro. I mean if I can get a GoPro for about $200, why would I pay about $150 for a significantly poorer alternative? The savings are too little to make it worth the compromise in quality.

January 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJanne

Great rewiew again!

This nicely fits in between the keyrings and the GoPro.
Having had not much success with an 808 #11, this is an interesting alternative.

@Janne - for UK (and maybe other countries) where the current equivalent price of GoPro is ~$400, there is quite a substantial difference in price.

Would be great if TM got to review a GoPro :)

A big Thank You !

January 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commenteremceebar

@emceebar Without looking that hard I've found a UK retailer selling 'GoPro HD Motorsport Hero 1080p wide' which comes with a variety of mounts on ebay as a BiN for £183.81 (they seem to have plenty)

There may well even be better deals than that out there but with the '1080p laser camera waterproof mini sports action' being (at best) £103 without mounts while that is £80.81 cheaper I wonder if that is really enough difference for a 'budget' camera (without the accessory mounts actually being available?)

I think they need to sell the whole kit, camera and mounts, for well under £100 (half the price of the GoPro) before it'll interest me.

January 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

@Voyager03

fair point :)
I should have made it more clear that the price I quoted was for a GoPro II with all the extras.
As you rightly point out, RD32II *doesn't* come with those nice extras
Without those extras, you can get GoPro for less than your price, and I agree, a more realistic comparison

But, is the GoPro *that* much better ?
And is the GoPro II even better ?
I keep seeing (other) forum posts from more experienced users saying they are 'not impressed with GoPro' quality or who want to 'upgrade from GoPro'

An un-biased comparison would be great, hence my suggestion/hope that TM review the GoPro

....

January 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commenteremceebar

Hi Techmoan, please upload a short 720p 60FPS raw video. Thanks :)

January 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMarek

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