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Sep042012

Liquid Image Ego Review - Part 2

Here is the final part of my exhaustive (and exhausting) two-part review of the Liquid Image Ego camera. (Part 1 here)

The quality of the video this camera produces is excellent, but the accompanying Actionconnect app and the manner in which it interacts with the camera needs a lot of work.

Luckily this camera can be used perfectly well for most of the time without any need to resort to the application. I found that once I'd used the wifi viewfinder to correctly line up the camera mount on my motorbike - I didn't need to use the app  again, until it came time to adjust the FOV setting.

Unfortunately due to the fiddly nature of this procedure, rebooting the camera and connecting it up to my phone by the side of the road took long enough that a helpful biker stopped and asked me if I needed assistance. He had seen me crouching beside my machine a few minutes earlier when he rode past in the other direction and assumed that I needed help. This experience taught me two things, firstly that bikers are generally very helpful people, and secondly that I really shouldn't try adjusting the settings on the Ego if I'm in a hurry.

Price - When I bought mine from Expansys on Amazon, it was £120. Now that Expansys are out of stock, the cheapest price from other stockists is over £150, which in my opinion is too high. I'd suggest waiting for prices to drop back down a bit. 

SAMPLES 

If you want to download some samples - I've uploaded a folder containing 1080p30 and 720p60 videos together with some stills. These will look considerably better than the youtube clips. Click Here to download these files 

If you read through the comments you'll see that a couple of people have been having issues with the camera shutting off recording after 30 mins...rather than carrying on making more 30 min files. The solution appears to be a combination of using a different firmware from the one supplied on the camera and also possibly sticking to cards under 32GB in size. It's possible that some 32GB cards may work...but it's something you'll need to experiment with. 

UPDATE Jan 2013 The Action Connect app has been replaced with a really good Liquid Image App and the firmware has been tweaked a number of times and now has options to turn off the light and flip the image (amongst other improvements). See the Comments for more. 

This is a really excellent camera for a brilliant price.

(£102 for the Blue one on Amazon UK - at the time of writing (18/1/13).

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Reader Comments (134)

Unfortunately you need the app to get into the settings and its IOS or Android only.

December 7, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

I can't watch videos i recorded put 16gb card into usb stick i tried it in the telly ,i pad,and laptop and noting happened 2gb used on card wat am i doin wrong Wats the easy way to view videos recorded it my firstfirst time using it recorded video in 1080/720

December 9, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertutty

I can't watch videos i recorded put 16gb card into usb stick i tried it in the telly ,i pad,and laptop and noting happened 2gb used on card wat am i doin wrong Wats the easy way to view videos recorded it my firstfirst time using it recorded video in 1080/720

December 9, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertutty

You aren't being very clear. Are you saying that there are files on the card that you can't play? If so update your codecs on your computer using the K-lite codec pack. If all else fails just connect the camera to your TV by HDMI.

December 9, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Thank you very much for taking the time, energy, and thought that went into making your two-part review. I believe it's the most thorough Ego review in the known universe.

I downloaded your two "Bike Country" movies, as I will be mounting the Ego (if Santa brings me one, and I am in good stead with an elf) on a motorcycle. I (barely) detected some choppiness in the 1080 version, and none in the 720 version. As the two clips seem otherwise remarkably similar, I think I will go with the 720 mode.

Two questions:

1) I don't recall your mentioning anything about your preferred metering setting. Did you use center or average for the bike videos?

2) You did mention that the user might as well set the camera to 3 MP. Is that the setting that you used for those two videos?

Thanks again for your help.

December 19, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterBill Pollack

I tried both metering options but didn't really notice any difference - although it's not something I've experimented with too much. Let me know if you find that one is better than the other in the majority of situations. I think I may have used average in the videos ….possibly.

The 3MP setting is only for the photos- it doesn't affect the videos. Any photos that are shown in the videos are probably taken at 3MP....or 5MP

December 19, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Thanks for the clarification on the MP setting. I hadn't realized that this setting was for still photos only.

I'll experiment with the metering option, and let you know if I notice anything significant in terms of videos.

December 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterBill Pollack

Hmmmm, this camera maybe the "one". But, I want to be clear. I can use this and film and take stills and "don't" need to do anything on a smart phone? And it will work okay?

As I am a non-pocket computer guy. I'll be using it in a wet, salty enviorment on a boat. And yes would buy the water proof case.

That's one thing your review didn't cover at all. Which is okay. But then again. This company basically specializes in ":underwater.
Jus' so everyone knows that.

December 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterCapt Dave Sipler

Yes there's no need to use the application with this camera...it works fine on its own. The only thing that you might want to do with the app that you can't do otherwise is to change the FOV.

December 30, 2012 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Hello Techmoan,

Thanks a lot for your in-depth review. I love my Ego and use it almost everyday.

Firstly I updated firmware from 2.2.1.2 (out of the box from ebay USA) to 2.2.1.0

to solve 30 mins stop shooting issue. Recently the App Action Connect for iOS update

and it notify that 2.2.1.0 is out of date and I lose control function of my Ego.

The app suggest me to find the new firmware at weltin.com.hk. I did download the newest version and tried to update to Ego

many times. But the Ego keep freezing with "UP" shown and nothing happen at all even for an hour.

I have to push the reset button and it still has the 2.2.1.0. Anyone can help?

And I found some trick about using external power. Although LIC said Ego can't be charged and shooting clip at the same time,

but using external power while shooting can be done easily!

Just plug the usb cable to the 5V1A power source, as in my case I mount the Ego and usb powerbank to the handlebar of

motorcycle, insert usb cable then Ego will go to charging mode with lcd show "USB".

Now wait for about 30sec the lcd will change to "CHA", then just simply push the shutter button!

The Ego will bypass the internal battery and use the power directly from external source. Internal battery will not be charged

nor consumed its power So literally, you can't charge the battery and shoot video at the same time.

But you could shoot like 6hour straight (maximum 32g sdhc) by using this trick. Enjoy!

January 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKelvin

I found out today that -- on the iPhone now, and for Android later -- the Action Connect app has been replaced by an app called "Liquid Image." The "App Version" is 1.1.0, it says.

Further, when I installed this app and went through the usual wi-fi connecting, it told me that I had an obsolete firmware level on the camera, and told me to go to http://app.liquidimageco.com/ and install the new version. I followed the instructions there (or at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3qzsKHCcMk ), and I now have the Ego at firmware version 3.2.1.0 (up from 2.2.1.2, which came on the camera when purchased in the USA, in December, 2012).

By the way, the new app adds a settings choice to turn off the LED on the camera. The other settings seem to be the same as before.

January 14, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBill Pollack

Bill, I spotted the app a couple of days ago and downloaded it but I haven't had time to test it yet. Looks like I'm due some new firmware too. I'm happy that the Liquid Image guys are continuing to support and improve their camera. It really is excellent value for money and offers the features of much more expensive cameras at a fraction of the price.

January 14, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

LIC need to start releasing a few more accessories over here in the UK.

One one of their youtube videos it said it was compatible with 3rd party mounts including GoPro, but it is not. Bought the grab bag and the centre piece is too thick for the ego...

I would like to get another of the helmet mounts so that I can put a mount on a couple of helmets.

January 15, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJames

Hi, what mounts are compatable with the camera. Mainly can you use the gopro head strap with the camera? And how do you go about mounting it?

January 15, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterSean

If anyone can update firmware from 2.2.1.0 to newer version please let me know. I've tried everything and still not success.

January 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKelvin

You can use the GoPro mount - you just need to file a slither off each side of the centre plastic bar. Be careful when doing this as it is easy to file too much of and end up with a rattely mount.

January 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterNeilB

Thanks for the reply, I will let you know how I get on!

January 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterSean

@Kelvin: I upgraded from 2.2.1.2 (the firmware that came installed) to 3.2.1.0 by:

1) Going to https://liquidimage.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/847125-firmware-updates and clicking on the "Click here" link in the "Ego Series Model 727" sentence. I saved this file to my PC.

2) I plugged in my Ego to the PC via its included USB cord, and (using Windows Explorer) copied the downloaded file to the outer-most directory of the Ego's memory card.

3) Following the instructions in the video on that first page (or viewable directly on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3qzsKHCcMk ), I had the Ego upgrade itself. The video shows a pair of goggles, but it has the same buttons as the Ego. Follow the turn-on then hold-and-release instructions precisely, and make sure you get to see "UP" in the Ego's display for awhile (or you haven't pressed the buttons properly).

This worked for me.

January 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBill Pollack

Ver 3.3.1.0 is available from:
http://www.weltin.com.hk/support/liquid-image/
With the following list of added features.

NB: I am having issues (even with this upgrade) of the camera crashing when you try to alter the time-lapse period from 2s to 5s or 10 seconds when then trying to shoot stills. Have to use the reset button to gain any response thereafter.
Useful 180˚ lens rotate function (if it works!).


Firmware Version: 3.3.1.0
Date Posted: 20130-1-8
Major improvements since last release (v2.2.2.2)
1. Improve the remote browsing speed for camera contents.
2. Improve the image/video quality, typically indoor case.
3. Add Underwater mode (can be set through associated APP).
4. Charging speed through DC Adaptor is increased by twice.
5. LED indicator and Beep sound can be disable/enable from associated APP.
6. Support image flip mode (set through associated APP).
7. More Video resolution can be set through associated APP
8. Improve the speed of Wi-Fi coming to ready for operation (from 18s to now 9s)
9. Support more status parameters reported to associated APP, now APP can show the camera battery, Micro SD card status.

UPGRADE INSTRUCTIONS:
1. Ensure your battery is fully charged.
2. Connect your camera to your computer.
3. Make sure you Micro SD card is correctly formatted.
4. Copy the downloaded “firmware.bin” into the Micro SD root directory.
5. Disconnect the camera from the computer, the camera will auto power off
6. Press and hold “Shutter” button, then press “Power” button, release the two buttons when you see the words “Up” on the LCD screen.
7. The camera will automatically upgrade itself, after the process (normally within 1 minute), the camera will automatically shut down.
8. Restart the camera, wait till the Wi-Fi icon pop up (around 25s), then the camera will automatically restart by itself, it’s normal, after that, the camera is ready for use.
Notes: after upgrade, you may need to set up the camera Data/Time (through APP “Action Connect”) again, the APP will sort the camera contents according the DateTaken parameter, so it’s very important.

January 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterNeilB

Thank you for the info.

My Ego firmware originally was 2.2.1.2 and I updated to 2.2.1.0 successfully.

So I know exactly how to update. I did follow every step of updating but still fail.

I have 2 Ego cameras and my friend has one. All 3 Egos were updated from 2.2.1.2 to 2.2.1.0

And now none of us can update any. The screen show "UP" and freeze for hours until I have to press reset button.

We did try change many cards, change firmware version, change pc, try format card.

Now we think that Ego with version 2.2.1.0 can not be updated at all and have no idea what to do next.

I asked LIC tech support to try update Ego to 2.2.1.0 then update to something else. And they said they did it successfully.

What should I do now?

January 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKelvin

I finally got around to updating mine. I was on 2.1.4.0 then I used Bill's link to get up to 3.2.1.0 then I used NeilB's link to get to 3.3.1.0

All done in 5 mins. I suppose you get different results from different starting points - but I had no issues with mine.

Now I've tried the GoPro 3 White (a £200 camera) I can confidently say that the Ego offers better performance for almost half the price.

January 18, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

No one use 2.2.1.0? T_T

January 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKelvin

Hi, just got this camera and it's great apart from the firmware upgrade issues which are driving me mad! Action Connect reports it as being on 2.1.4.0 at the moment. It directed me to http://www.weltin.com.hk/support/firmware_V3310.rar which just leads to having 'UP' on the screen for hours until the battery dies. I also tried the links from these comments (https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=batch_download&send_id=1649578593&email=9b618a9353d3aedc46852662a1f3e96a and https://liquidimage.egnyte.com/publicController.do?folderName=20130109&fileName=d6277f2d0a0547cd) but just get the same 'UP' until the battery dies! Anyone solved this? I've tried with a 16GB Class 10 and an 8GB Class 2. Thanks

January 28, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterstuart

The firmware flash will only take about 1 minute or so when it's working.

Once you have extracted the .rar file to a firmware.bat file and then copied that file to the root of your card it should just work, there is no trick to it.

All I can think is that you might want to try a card reader (if you aren't already doing it) and reset your camera...but other than that I'm out of ideas.

January 28, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Thanks for the response but that's what I've been doing. I've been using a card reader to transfer the file, making sure the extracted .bat is on the root. Tried formatting the card in FAT32 and FAT but still no joy. Have fired off an email to enquiry@weltin.com.hk and will report back if they respond. Have previously filled in the email form on Liquid Image's site but didn't get a response. I guess my original firmware, 2.1.4.0, is older than most that have successfully upgraded?

January 28, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterstuart

I was on the same one as you (2.1.4.0 - see my earlier comment a couple above) - and it worked fine for me, so it should theoretically be possible. Good luck.

January 28, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

I am in the same boat as you Stuart, so you are not alone. I have tried 3 different cards, fat and exfat, and two different versions of firmware with no succuess. If you find an solution leave a comment.

January 30, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike

ActionConnect for Android has been updated a few times, I run Ver 3.0.7 on my Galaxy Ace phone with no problems, now I can see the video before I start to record, something that wasn't possible in the past.

One thing LiquidImage et all are still working on: the GooglePlay store says my Samsung Tab2 tablet isn't compatible with ActionConnect. It runs perfectly though, and I know because Foneric has an APK file for version 3.0.7 on their website which I installed and tested.
All details to be found on GooglePlay, you'll have to get to the ActionConnect page via a Google search if searching with your tablet.

All in all it took some time to get the Android side up to shape, but I must say LiquidImage was very helpfull and alert, answering emails promptly !

cheers, Leo

January 30, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterLeo Starrenburg

Some additional info and a question for the folks having problems:

1) I just upgraded from 3.2.1.0 (see my post from Jan. 16, describing how I got to that level) to 3.3.1.0 (see Neil's post -- right after mine -- noting the availability of that version). No problem, and the actual "UP"date took about half a minute.

2) The card I bought for my Ego is this: "Samsung 32GB microSDHC Card Class 10 Sold by: CELLMEM"

I bought this in Dec. from www.buy.com (for $38.43 and free shipping, if you must know). I did NOT format this card (prior to or after inserting it) or do anything at all to it, other than figure out which way to hold it, so I could pop it in the Ego. I do not know what format, if any, it came in.

Now, some questions for those who have problems (and I'm only trying to help -- I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence):

A) You are putting a file called "firmware.bin" (without the quotes) on the Ego, correct? For example, the Weltin site that Neil mentioned -- and where I got my latest update -- lets you save a file called "firmware_V3310.rar". You realize that you are NOT to put that file on the Ego, and that you must first extract firmware.bin from that archive (using any number of software products, which may or may not be built into your operating system), right?

B) You are putting that firmware.bin file in the OUTER-MOST directory of the Ego, correct? For example, if I connect my Ego to my PC using the supplied mini-USB cable, and then run Windows Explorer (I'm running Windows Vista on my PC), the Ego will show up as a drive called "LIC SW CARD (X:)" (without the quotes, and where "X" is just some drive letter greater than other letters in use -- it doesn't matter). Anyway, under or within that LIC SW CARD drive, Windows Explorer shows two subdirectories, DCIM and MISC. So, my point here is: you're not copying that firmware.bin file to one of those subdirectories, are you, but are instead putting in the "root" directory (i.e., the same directory that shows those two subdirectory names), correct?

C) One last thing: that firmware.bin file is about 50 MB in size (or, put another way, about 50,000 KB). If your firmware.bin file is not about that size, then maybe you had a download problem or PC problem or something. If that's the case, try the download again, or try the extraction from the .rar file again.

Editorial aside:

Incidentally, Windows Explorer shows, in KB, the file sizes of both the firmware.bin extracted from the Weltin site's .rar file AND the firmware.bin file from liquidimage.desk.com at 50,020 KB. These binary files are NOT identical. I don't know why we should have to go to Weltin's site, rather than Liquid Image's own site, to get the latest update. Doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy, because there's enough malware available on the 'net to sink a ship. Second, it's nice that the Weltin file NAME at least contains the release level; the download at Liquid Image gives you no indication of what firmware level you're downloading, not does seem to list this as part of the downloaded file's Properties. Liquid Image could learn something here from Weltin. But I digress.

January 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBill Pollack

Addenda: one thing I forgot to mention that also puzzled me. As I mentioned earlier, when I first ran the new Liquid Image app on my iPhone (as opposed to the old Action Connect app), the app complained, right after loading, that the Ego's firmware was out of date. Not so this evening, when I fired up the Ego and then the iPhone app.

So, I wonder what triggers the app to complain about the firmware. Does the app check someplace in the ether to determine what firmware the camera should have? And, if so, how often does it check? And is there some cut-off, where it decides that the camera's firmware is "close enough" that it doesn't bother to tell you? Those sort of things...

January 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBill Pollack

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