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Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE from Eletoponline CLICK HERE (US LINK)

UK LINK HERE


(Current Price at time of Publishing $68.99 for the basic set (£46.33)

 

It's also available in the UK from JooVuu

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

UPDATE - Online GUI Configuration Update. A nice chap called Lacopo has been in touch. He has created a website to make updating the settings easier. This is especially handy for users who are unable to use the Windows based GUI software. The website is MobiusGUI.COM

 

 

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Reader Comments (743)

Very good color of this little Ding! More interesting is those other website RC Groups, ChuckLohr etc.
The color is the best, most neutral of all other sport camera. so far... IMO

Thanks Mat!!

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterPat

Your review alone sold me this camera.
Thank you so much for all your work on effort.

Regards,

PK

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterPixel_K

Will have to get one when the sj1000 gets refunded. Another great review Tecmoan.

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered Commentergillebob

Yes, things are really moving quickly in the small camera market at the moment. The Mobius is a lot easier to mount to things...but you have to make sure you can keep it dry.

July 8, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Yep I bought this a week or two ago from Joovuu (who is Manchester based) on the basis of the info I was reading on the RCGroups website, I bought this to compliment my DR32 and wanted to use this more as an actioncam on my mountainbike and motorbike, the really great thing is I can alter settings via my Android phone if I need to. The sound and video on the Mobius is excellent, probably better than the DR32, the only slight negative point is the slightly oversaturated video but a future firmware is going to allow you to vary the brightness, contrast and saturation, the developers are really on the ball with firmware updates on the cam. Excellent !!

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrian

Hi Matt nice review as always I liked the tongue in cheek remark hoping there is no problem with filming in here whilst pointing directly at the sign that clearly states no video or photography .......nice one I like the sense of humour.... Thanks again for the excellent and informative review .........Ipol

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterIpol

Ipol, thanks and I'm glad you spotted that one....

July 8, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Just bought this based on your excellent review. I'll be installing it as a forward facing car dvr. The footage looks amazing and able to read number plates. It will be interesting to compare p30 with p60 for this purpose.

Also looking forward to see if they release a motion detect feature in the firmware.

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjd

Excellent! The Mobius is truly worthy of your review, or should that be the other way round?

The camera's only been available for two weeks, so it's amazing how many features are already included and work as expected! I can't wait to see some of the features planned for future firmware versions.

This camera is what so many people have been waiting for, and it was definitely worth the wait! I LOVE it.
A great product, from a great manufacturer.
Thank you for your review, and a BIG thank you to the manufacturer.

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterEnthusiastic User

Great review as usual. I've been holding off a purchase for a car dvr but I've now placed an order. I'm hoping I can use the stick on screen attachment and hide it behind the rear view mirror. Have you tried this mount and how does it look?

Keep up your great work.

July 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMr P.

I've still got to do one experimenting with mounting it in my car. I do intend to put this to use as a car cam.

July 8, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Hi,

Dumb question I suspect...I cant D/L any of the sample videos on the Dumptruck web site...I can only right click and save the link only.....??...Left click gets no reaction ( I assumed it would start the usual d/l routine for me to choose a place on my hard drive etc...

Great review BTW as usual....I think it may end up being my FPV cam for R/C...I already have the 808-16 .....Rgds....Laurie

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterLaurie Carroll

This camera looks indeed great in 1080 mode, the narrow 720 mode feels almost unnecessary altough the 60fps might be handy sometimes.

Talking about lens adjustment, it's nice to have a tool for it and unlocked threads. I just took apart my cheap "copycat" car camera and sunglass camera to adjust their lenses and it was quite a job to remove the thread locking substance with sharp hobby knife, especially from the tiny sunglass videocamera lens. Another job to adjust the lens as sharp as I could without live videofeed. Car camera has it's own screen but it's not high res enough for adjusting the lens.
Therefore I marked the original position to the body of the camera and the lens, then turned it some, took some test footage, repeated this until I found the sharpest image these cameras can do & marked the new location so I know where the best location is if it ever turns away from it. I don't think it does though because the lens didn't turn very easily.

Looking forward to the upcoming 808#26 review even if it takes few weeks.

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterFinnish guy

This is looking good! Love that the tripod thread mount is being supplied with it.

Wind noise 'bit annoying isn't it?'.... Is this camera going to be part of your planned test of how to reduce wind noise?

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

Thanks for the review! Got mine this morning from Webbex (approved UK supplier) www.minidvcameras.co.uk.
Ordered at 3pm yesterday - postman delivered 9:00am this morning!

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterCity Punk

Great review as always Mat!
I had a look at your configuration program @ 12:55 in the video, Great to see the time laps carried over from the #16,
but Will there be MOTION DETECTION as well?

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJim B.

Jim, the manufacturer emailed me today to say that the next firmware will include motion detection.

July 9, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Interesting review, I like the square design of camera.
I would like to buy this camera but seller dont ship to my country.
I already have 808 #20 and #18 both 720p, but would like to have 1080p.
Maybe I would have to wait for 808#26 camera, hope there will be more than one seller for that camera.

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMiki

I'm totally going to get one of these. I got the 808 #16 on your recommendation.

On a side note, I called a company based in Manchester earlier last week, and the man who voiced their auto attendant sounded scarily like you. It's been bugging me since. Was it you? I've gotta know T_T

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChee

I've had my Mobius for one week now, tested it around the house and garden and noticed (like others) that the video tends to over saturate. Today I tried it out in the field in its intended use as an action cam, I had it fitted to my mountain bike helmet and used the Mobius on some reasonably bumpy off road situations and noticed that as the exposure varies (see linked video clip) especially due to the sky coming in and out of the shot that the colour's saturation varies wildly as a result, and completely spoils the clip. I do not think there is a problem with my Mobius and this is down to firmware that needs modifying. The video was shot in 1080p with firmware v034.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu0mX51iN2I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrian

I asked if they are going to provide a cable to allow the sensor to be remote to the body. They say that this is in development. Doesn't seem too hard to do! If so that would make it amazing car dvr - mount the box out of view with only the sensor on show. I also see they are releasing motion detect. Brilliant! A manufacturer who listens to their customers!

July 9, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterterry

Great review again Matt. Hopefully not a dumb question, but can the camera be installed upside down in the mounting bracket? That would avoid having to change the config setting to flip the video. Then you could use it as a car camera and take it out and use for another purpose without accessing the settings.

July 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMatt K

The camera will fit upside-down into the mounting bracket, but the clips are in the way. This means the camera will be at a slight angle and could easily slide out of the frame. Also, you can't access the buttons and the USB socket is covered by the frame. You could easily file the frame to make space for the USB socket and break off the clips, but I don't think it would be a perfect solution.

FWIW, the Mobius can also be operated by using an external USB power source without the internal battery installed.

July 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterEnthusiastic User

Looks like the perfect camera. What is missing is the ability to shot 25 and 24 (23.976) fps so the clips can be edited within PAL videos and movies. This should not be a big issue to implement in a firmware update. What would also be a nice feature for film makers is the ability to set the aperture / sensibility on fixed / manual.

July 10, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohannes

I'm dissapointed again !

I have several ipcamera's in my home, i have the 808 nr 11 en 16 and others to record video etc, but still they are going for a fisheye lens??? I really don't understand..can you please tell these guys that there are 2 sorts of camera's.

a camera that hangs at the ceiling and records moving object like an ipcamera and a camera that is use on an car, motor, rcplane.

the first one needs a wide angle lens with fish eye for the biggest FOV possible ,the second one needs a wide angle lens 16:9 without the fish eye effect. You want a normal wide angle view when recording when driving/flying...not a disstorted horizon.
I rather pay 25 dollar/pounds more to have a decent not disstored wide angle lens then another cam with a few extra's.

So please tell these guys, the image/lens is more important then the few new gimmicks when filming on the go.

btw...impeccable review as always techmoan;)

July 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKasper

I guess there is no option to manually set the white balance? In the clips I see the auto WB tends to change quite a lot, especially in the video Brian posted. I'd be almost always using a camera like this outdoors so just locking a "cloudy" or "sunny" white balance would surey result in better colors.

July 11, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAhtiPasseli

Matt, before you disappear off on holiday, can you advise if there would be any problems powering this via a 24v cig socket in a truck please? Don't want to fry it! If there any potential problems then info on products to stop it from frying mucho apreciado.

July 11, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAlsitheelad

After posting my Mobius video with saturation/white balance issues caused by rapid condition changes due to the sky coming into/out of shot, I was contacted by the developers to upload the entire unedited clip so they could analyse it and hopefully eradicate the issue in a future firmware update. I must say 95% of the time my Mobius performs admirably but under these particular circumstances there is a issue. It is worth pointing out that I had WDR enabled in that clip and I am not sure if this would happen if it was switched off !

July 11, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBrian

Hi Matt,

enjoyed your review, thank you. Maybe you could update from "Motion detection? - NO" to "Motion detection? - NO (next firmware)"?

I almost skipped this camera but then read your comment that you had been informed by the manufacturer.

Happy Holidays!

Frank

P.S. No need to publish my remark really.

July 11, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterFrank

Alsitheelad, the camera is powered by USB socket (5V DC) so if you search on Ebay for (24v USB) you will find a adapter to use from you cigarette socket. (assuming your trucks has a cigarette lighter socket)

July 11, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohn

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