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Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

Hi Techmoan! Thanks a lot for your excellent reviews. There're a couple of more requests or rather suggestions to the Mobius producer from a group of this device users which I represent. So, here we go:

1. Would it be possible to completely disable the audio in the upcoming firmware versions in order to save the memory space?
2. Could they possibly introduce the mp3 or even better AAC audio compression codecs?

The ability to turn the image to 90 degrees instead of 180 is highly desirable as well, but I'm afraid it's impracticable due to the matrix physical dimentions.

Thanks a lot,

Jinnee

December 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJinnee

Well mine lasted 2 days before becoming faulty.

It refuses to always start recording when power is applied and when this happens you can't even turn it on via the power button.

Not looked into possible solutions yet but not very impressed that it's causing me issues already.

December 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBunny

I made a comparison video between the Mobius wide angle lens and the standard lens. You can find it here....http://rectronixza.blogspot.com

December 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRecTronix

@jinnee re '1. Would it be possible to completely disable the audio in the upcoming firmware versions in order to save the memory space?'

I hope I understand your question re audio correctly: You can completely disable the audio using the configuration software linked to in the description at the top.

December 27, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

@ Bunny re 'It refuses to always start recording when power is applied and when this happens you can't even turn it on via the power button.'

I don't know if something I've experienced is related to the problem you've been having. I drive an old car that doesn't always start immediately. I also own and use simultaneously three Mobius cameras as dashcams in this car (one facing forward, another facing backwards, and the third one recording me while driving.) I quickly noticed that if I have to crank the engine more than half a second, sometimes one or more of the cams is not working. I believe this is because the power gets interrupted to the cameras at some point during the engine start. I also quickly discovered that if I unplug my 12V plug and re-plug it while the engine is running, the cameras all start at the same time and stay running. I have made this easier by using a 12V splitter which has an on/off switch on it. After I start engine, I then turn the power to the cameras on via the on/off switch. I have not had any problems with using these cameras for the past several months. I hope this helps.

December 27, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

@ Rectronix Thank you for the comparison video. It reveals a lot about the differences. Personally, I use the Mobius as an action cam during pleasure drives in the countryside when I am not using it as a dashcam. I think the wide-angle view artificially shows objects too far away. It also makes the driving appear slower which is not what I want when I am recording pleasure drives on twisty and hilly roads. I think the standard camera is a realistic image of what you see when driving.

December 27, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

good news everybody a new feamware has been released V1.13 that includes motion detection..also lots of options for "advance image settings" exposure, contrast, white balance adjustments etc (its way over my head but its good to see the developer puting a lot of effeort into the firmware updates)

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

@ johngr: Thank you for the update.

Does anyone know if the manufacturer is working on providing 1080p60 mode? And, if so, when this is expected to be released? In my experience, 1080p30 does not capture sufficient detail when the Mobius is used as an action cam i.e. not enough frames are captured to show consistent continuity of moving images.

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

I installed the new V1.13 firmware but when I try to set the parameters using mSetup I get this message all the time,

Oops, the camera did not understand all the settings. Some parameters have not been set correctly
Param=Write/Read:
MovieMode1Res=3/1

Help please, Jac.

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJac

Jac,

My guess is that you're using an old version of the GUI to install the latest firmware. You must use the latest version of the GUI.

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

All fixed russ, I deleted the files on the memory card and then went online, downloaded an old update, (which included the motion detection thingy) and everything works fine again. Thanks.

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJac

Hi,

I am thinking of hardwiring this camera to the fusebox. I was wondering if anyone knows how many watts this camera uses when in standby/motion detection mode? I would like to be able to keep the camera rolling 24/7, but need to know if I should get an extra battery or not.

Thanks.

January 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

Here is some footage of the wide angle and standard lens while doing night time recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcYqhaYtc3I

January 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRecTronix

@jacob
read post 7 from the rc form http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904559
basicly 300ma on standby 340-400ma recording
when motion detecting the camera is active so the save bet is to use 400ma as a ref.
you will need a 12v to 5v converter (1 amp will be enough) you cant directly connect the camera to the car 12v battery suppy.
not sure how much power the 12v-5v convert uses. but i wouldent want to connect to the car battery 24/7. to much risk of not been able to start your car,

i would use a power bank like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dual-USB-Power-Bank-External-Mobile-Battery-Charger-Portable-10000mAh-1-5V-1A-/161171551665?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item258692b5b1 to power/charge the camera then have the car charge the power bank when the car is running. but if your only doing sort journey in your car the power bank may not fully charge

January 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

Thank you for your thoughts on the issue. Some type of middleware to avoid draining the battery would probably be smart. I will investigate further.

January 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

Hi. I've had one of those little cams for about 2 years. Now battery dies in 2 min of recording after full charge. I guess I'll just have to through the camera away (not a big deal, it was cheap fortunately)
BUT is there any way to replace a battery in The Mobius 1080p?? Or it will be worthless in 2 years too?

January 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterVlad

The Mobius battery is very easy to replace. Order one by emailing the seller I linked to (eletoponline365). When it arrives, unscrew the case, unplug the old one swap it out. Will take less than 5 mins.

January 4, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Does anyone have experience with the motion detection feature? Is it something that you can set to turn on automatically when power is cut or do you have to do it manually? Seems like a hassle to switch it on and off each time you enter or leave the car.

January 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

@Jacob,

See http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-in-motion-detect-mode.3656/

January 4, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@ Jacob

I have mine set to "auto start external power = on and motion detect = on" the cam powers on when it gets power and goes into motion detect mode. I dont think you can set it to come on when the power is removed. Hope this helps. Alan

January 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlan

@ Alan

And it records normally with the loop intervals you have set, no random gaps? And when you park your car, does it stop recording until motion is detected?

January 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

Thanks Mat for the great review of the Mobius. I just purchased one from eletoponline and the service was great as I received it in 4 days. I bought it to use with my IFly-4 quadcopter as we travel the country for long periods in our caravan and I can see great possibilities in doing aerial videos around the outback campsites we stay at and in and near small country towns.

Previously I was using a FatShark Pilot HD camera and the quality was woeful (it was cheap so I'm not complaining, that's just how it is). Ive done a few sorties near home with the Mobius and the youtube video I did was to demonstrate my short test. The clarity is amazing!
Here is the youtube link:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrcvogkj8EQ

You may notice that I can rotate the camera on a vertical axis when I wish to. You may also notice that there is some occasional vertical jitter, this is a result of the platform the camera is mounted on vibrating slightly when clear air turbulence is encountered.
Modifications have already been done to modify the camera mounting system to overcome this problem.

Some details for the technically minded are:-
Mode 1 Camera setup:- 60FPS, 1280 x 720 resolution, normal field of view, quality standard.
Mode 2 Camera setup:-30FPS, 1920 x 1080 resolution, wide field of view, quality standard.

1) The first 1 minute 31 seconds are recorded in mode 1.
2) The remaining two segments from 1 minute 32 seconds to 4 minutes 36 seconds have been recorded in mode 2.

Alternately, you can buy a replacement battery online here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261313329011

January 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterZac

@ Jacob

Yes that is correct.
Only random gaps are when there is no motion after 30 secs.
When I park my car, I still have power going to the camera so yes it will record on motion detect.
But If there is no power the camera will shut down after 2 mins.

Alan

January 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlan

@ Alan

Thank you very much =) The mobius is on its way, can't wait to try it out.

January 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

@ Jacob

No probs.

Another idea is to use a gopro mount and adaptor to mount it, instead of using a suction mount. More secure and less noticable.

Alan

January 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlan

For Mobius mounting solutions visit http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-mounting-solutions.2654/

January 9, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hi everyone! I'd like to buy Mobius and use it as an action camera (like GoPro) when I go riding my motorbike. Do you think it isn't the right camera? I was thinking about buying the one with wide angle lens.
Thank you.

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRiccardo

@Riccardo

Judging by the number of YouTube videos, Mobius appears to be very popular with motorcyclists. One drawback has been the lack of a waterproof housing, however, UK Mobius seller, JooVuu, has just launched a waterproof case made with the cooperation of Mobius.

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

apart from the lack of water profing the camera it makes a great action camera. if you get one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=GO+PRO+TRIPOD+ADAPTER&_sop=15
you can use the go pro mounting system.

just has a note i brought a few of these adapters from one seller and i had to modifi them to make them fit. ie drill the hole a little bigger and file the tangs a bit to make them fit easyer, i had 3 and they was all slightley different from each other.

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

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