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Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

@russ331

Thank for the quick reply. So do you think that the quality is good? Even with the motorbike vibrations?
Do you also think that wide angle would be better than standard one?

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRiccardo

great quality video. what sort of motorbiking do you tend to use it on MX, road etc?
where would you like to mount it, helmet handle bar chest?
helmet mount is abit wobble and you also get all the movement of your head.
bike mount seams to be ok but you can get some vibration if you dont use a solid mount or you use to many extensions etc
chest mount seams to be the best your body takes most of the vibration and wobble out and camera points forward.

wide angle will take our vibration wobble better than the standard lens but the standard is good any way.

there are lots of cheap (copy) gopro mounts on ebay so you can experment with different mounting option.

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

I was thinking of using it on the helmet for riding on the road (and, if possible, on circuit) with my motard. I know it has also problems with the noise caused by the wind, but i saw on YouTube that it's solvable with some foam on the mic. I could also use it for skiing or karting.
I was searching for the FOV of the GoPro, so I was thinking about buying wide angle.
If you have any advice tell me :)

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRiccardo

@Riccardo,

I have the wide angle Mobius, which I use in my car as a dashcam. I think that video quality is unbeatable, relative to price. I've read posts by people who own both Mobius & GoPro, yet prefer the results they achieve with the Mobius!

Both Mobius lenses are 7 element glass, made in Japan. Both are good, however, the wide-angle outperforms the standard lens in low light, so if night time video is important to you, get the wide angle model.

RC Aircraft fans use flexible silicone tubing to isolate Mobius from 'Jello' ... not sure if that's a suitable solution for motorcycle use.

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Amazing quality for the price. Although I have had a problem... Had the camera 4 - 6 months and worked fine, then all of a sudden stopped working. Had a spare so put that there and with in a week same again. I haven't changed car, head unit (sony one using usb out) or any thing. The camera powers up on pc and has led lit but not doesn't appear with in software etc. Tried different SD cards etc. Very confused and annoyed. Can anyone help ?

January 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDan

@Dan

You're using it as a dashcam with power supplied from a USB socket on a Sony stereo?

The Mobius is very particular about external power sources. It requires 5v & 1A. If the supply delivers less, when writing data to the card, this would result in the charger supplying less voltage which would in turn force the charging IC to stop charging the battery for a split second.

During this short time the camera would draw voltage from the internal battery and after a few milliseconds, when the write cycle is completed, the charger would again supply the necessary voltage and the charging IC would start charging the battery again.

These fast charging/discharging cycles will overheat the battery, overheat the charger IC and lead to premature failure of the battery and possibly the Mobius as well

I suspect the battery has been damaged. Try charging the Mobius for 3 hours via a wall plug charger or iPhone or iPad charger. If no luck, you'll probably need a new battery. Better still, replace the battery with the newly available Capacitor kit.

January 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hi. I'm after a sport cam to record the days out on of my 6 cylinder Benelli with it's 6 into 6 exhaust! I'm torn between the Mobius and the SJ1000. My only concerns are the updates and firmware for the Mobius as I use an AppleMac and the updates only refer to Windows, or as far as I can see. Will I have a problem updating the Mobius?

Great reviews.

Shaun

January 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commentershaunboat

Where can I buy the capacitor kit to retrofit my Mobius camera?

January 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohn

@John

All Mobius-approved sellers should have the Capacitor kit, even if not displayed on their websites. The JooVuu website indicates they have it in stock at £6 plus shipping.

January 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hi Matt,

Thank you very much for the excellent review of the Mobius camera! :)

In another report about this great little camera it was mentioned, that
the shiny heat sinks becomes quite hot after a while.

I remembered "something" about black and white and heat dissapation
and found this: http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/3136/
May be "Paint it Black" will help to reduce the heat and support the lifetime
of the camera (and looks better in combination with a black case?) ?
Only my two cent... :)
Best regards
Meino

January 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermcc

@Shaun

I nearly bought a Benelli 6 back in the day ... bought a Laverda 3CL instead.

Loads of Mobius owners use Apple computers, if the posts at RCGroups & Dashcamtalk are any indication. They mostly use software that enables them to run the Windows GUI. Some that don't want to use such software manually edit a Config file & copy it to the MicroSD card.

January 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hi Russ. Thanks for that! I have just noticed that they have reduced the wide angle of the SJ1000 so I think the Mobius looks the better camera now. I do like the look of the TCL SVC200 though. It's very tempting to spend that extra £60 and get something like that which has been given a very good review. But maybe for an entry level sportscam the Mobius might be my better bet.

Great bikes the Laverdas, but I think I'd find one a bit daunting now! These old bikes seem heavier to wheel out of the garage than I remember!

Many thanks.
Shaun

January 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commentershaunboat

Hi Shaun,

Mobius has a choice of 2 lenses ... Horizontal Field of View (HFOV) = 85deg (standard) & 116deg (wide angle). Not only that, but you can alter the angle of view for each lens 3 ways via selection within firmware. The Wide Angle lens, for instance can vary from 116deg (1080p/30) to 63deg (720p/60).

Also, Mobius receives unrivalled support from it's manufacturer. There were numerous firmware upgrades within Phase 1. Phase 2 has just arrived, & includes Motion Detection & a huge choice of colour control options. Phase 3 is promised this year, however, i don't know what new features it will provide.

All I can say is that since I bought it last October, it's become an even better product through firmware upgrades, & will become better still in the future.

January 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hi Russ

Thanks again for your reply. Yes, I have just seen that Mobius do a wide angle version along side the standard one. Which model would you recommend? The only thing I would say is that I'm not mad on too much fish eye effect. Pity they don't make one with interchangeable lenses.

Kind regards
Shaun

January 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commentershaunboat

I recommend the Wide Angle Lens, as it delivers clearer images in low-light (night time), & captures more 'evidence', which makes it a better choice for dashcam use, which is my interest.

The lenses are available as separate 'modules', so you could buy a Mobius with standard lens plus a wide angle lens module, as they're interchangeable.

The wide angle semi-fisheye effect is unavoidable in this price bracket. Avoiding it means spending far more cash on the lens than on the whole cost of the existing camera/lens.

You can minimise the semi-fisheye effect with the wide angle lens by selecting 1080p/30 'Narrow' = 102deg HFOV or 720p/60 = 63deg HFOV.

1080p/30 (Wide) is captured from 2304 x 1296 CMOS pixel array and scaled down to fit the 1920x1080 frame size.

1080p/30 (Narrow) is captured from central 1920 x 1080 CMOS pixel array. There is no scaling of the image.

720p/60 is captured from central 1280 x 720 pixel array. No scaling of the image.

January 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

hello,
my understanding was that the ebay seller eletoponline365 was the manafacture/developer, but they dont sell the wide angle camera or seprate lens, waterproof case or capacitor version/mod kit for the camera. wheres sellers like joovuu does.
is there a reasion for this?
thanks

January 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

@johngr

I used to be under the impression that eletoponline365 was the manufacturer / developer, however, I don't think they actually are. They undoubtedly have close links with the developer, & sell far more Mobius units than any other outlet.

They don't sell the waterproof case, as that has been independently developed by JooVuu. From what I've read at RCGroups, eletoponline365 do sell everything else you mentioned, it's just that you have to contact them (have to log-in with eBay) about what you want, as their website needs updating to include these items.

January 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

hello,
does anyone have tested the waterproof case from joovuu?
It would be very interesting to have information about the weight, compatibility with helmet mount and moisture issues.
thanks!

January 15, 2014 | Unregistered Commentersteabear

This probably is a basic question but I just received one of these in the post from eletoponline (6 days only) It came with a 30 inch USB lead similar to the ones that I use for my blackberry and my TomTom and I've already used it to connect to my laptop for the software and for downloading some footage I've taken.

Is it safe to use it as the charging lead in my car via a cigarette lighter USB adaptor and is it safe to charge it from a 3 pin wall socket (UK) using one of those 3 pin USB adaptors?

January 18, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohn C

@john C

Yes it's ok to use the supplied USB lead as you intend. Note that when the Mobius is in use as a dashcam it requires a 5V 1A supply. The USB car adapter must be capable of supplying the required current, failing which the internal battery's life may be very short.

January 19, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

This great camera is now also for sale from http://www.mobius-cam.com based in The Netherlands. Shipping to all European countries and also possible to place b2b orders (0% VAT!).

January 19, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Just recieved my mobius and i tried putting it on a window with the suctioncup and it fell off, ever since the image is often blurry, do i need to focus it with the alan key ?

January 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commentergomme600

For everyone who needs info about the waterproof case follow this topic (incl. movie and pics):

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2072785

January 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDeemxl

I had to, to improve the focus slightly w/ mine, not fun to pull apart, according to RC Groups they say focus shud be 2' to infinity.

January 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKurt John

Any idea when the motion detection will be added?

January 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChristos

already has been Christos

January 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJac

I seem to be having a problem that my keyboard and sometimes the cursor freeze when I connect my camera (mobius) to the USB. Is this a common problem ? Is there some form of device conflict?

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterWoodlander

@Woodlander

I suggest that you connect Mobius to PC while PC is totally OFF, not when on or in sleep or hibernate states. Then power up PC. This usually resolves USB connectivity issues. Worth a try anyway.

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Does any one know how to set up the motion detector function and which buttons to press etc?

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered Commentershaunboat

@shaunboat

If you use a pc you can use the unofficial program: http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/

But I also have a question for anyone with experience using motion detection. Once I turn it on it disables the "Power On - Auto Record" feature. And when I plug it into my computer it does not power on and auto record. Do I have to start it up manually each time I enter my car if I want to use the motion detection feature?

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

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