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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

I noticed now that even if I disable motion detection and enable power on - auto record it does not record when I connect it to my computer.. Does the little rascal know the difference between a "power source" and my computer?

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

One of my posts did not appear, so I hope I don't double post.

@shaunboat
You can use the setup program if you are on a pc: http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

@Jacob

It won't record when connected to PC. it will record when connected to other external power sources, e.g. USB plug charger/

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Seem to have a work around for the "freezing keyboard issue" by using a different USB port - The camera works well -very impressed

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterWoodlander

I have tried ajusting the focus and it is now good but sometimes during a recording the image goes out of focus, it happens alot in the car when moving but it does not correct itsself for ages. Is this normal or is their a fix ?

January 23, 2014 | Unregistered Commentergomme600

@gomme600

I suggest that you edit a video clip showing this problem down to about 1 minute duration, & upload it to Mega or similar. Then post your problem in the Mobius forum at the dashcamtalk site, & invite subscribers to view the raw video, & offer advice.

January 23, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

For the cyclists amoungs you, see http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:232942

January 24, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTooraj Enayati

@ tooraj enayati
the mount looks nice a compact , I have used the gopro mounting system before to get some good results.
one thing I would like to say is that if you are using the camera on your bike or motorbike (helmet or frame mounted) for evidence footage, is that if you do have a accident there is a good chance that the footage won't be recorded. something as simple as the memory card losing contact for a second will loss you your current video clip.

so if your video is 1min into the clip and your forced off your bike by a other motorist. most likely during your crash the camera will come of the mount or come in contact with something causing damage to the camera or at least eject the memory card losing your current video clip, leaving you with footage from 1min before the accident which is useless.

this has happened twice with me not on the road but when mounting biking I came off due to lack of skill. and I was left with no footage of the accident (maybe good in this case :) )

I put a bit of tape across the memory card to stop it from coming out and losing it all together. which has also happened to me.

January 24, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

@russ331 - yes, it will record while connected to PC. The thing is you must press record button first, and then connect mobius to PC. Just tried before a moment, works 100%.

January 24, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterpolish

@polish

He meant that it won't start recording automatically when being connected to a PC even though auto record is on. It only works when using an external powersource, which is understandable =)

January 25, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

@johngr

I think the card retention mechanism in your Mobius may be faulty. I've seen video of Mobius falling >50 feet from an RC aircraft (velcro failure) & surviving with video intact. Also video of aircraft crash landing (one into a pond), all with Mobius & video surviving. Don't recall any incident of memory card ejection on impact.

January 27, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Can you please announce when the motion detection version comes into production, this can expand its uses . If this feature is added, it would be much more useful if the settings can be edited, for example, a trigger can record for a certain amount of time, 1 min to 3 hours. Usually they stop at 10 seconds and not flexible. Having that kind of power to edit the motion detecting settings can open the doors for other types of uses and not hard to implement. Would love to write the company. but hope you can. Also why are all these cams limited to 32gb? Hope to see 64GB soon along with h.264 if possible or space saving formats. Love your reviews. Thanks a bunch.

January 27, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMike

@Mike

64GB cards can be used ... see <http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/why-the-drama-with-updating-firmware-with-a-64gb-card.3797/>

January 27, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@Mike

Motion Detection has been available for weeks, thanks to most recent firmware upgrade. Thread here... <http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-in-motion-detect-mode.3656/>

January 27, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Mike - The latest firmware has motion detection.

January 27, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Hi Guys,

I just bought a mobius camera, to use it on my motorcycle.
Little movie of the camera on my bike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gx0RnMiMPk

Videoquality is excellent compared to the price, but the sound quality could be better.
Now I noticed this external mic adaptor for a Gopro camera in combination with this external mic:

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/3-5mm-Microphone-Adapter-for-GoPro-HERO3-HERO3-3-5-mm-External-Mic-Cable-Wire-/131102366416?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item1e864f5ad0&_uhb=1

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/For-GoPro-Hero-1-2-3-3-3-5mm-Jack-Audio-Port-to-External-Microphone-Mic-Adapter-/141181014865?pt=UK_Photography_Microphones&hash=item20df0b5351&_uhb=1

Is it possible that this also works in combination with te mobius camera?
Do you guys have other solutions to improve the sound quality besides using foam?

Thanks!

February 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSVjohnny

I assume most of your sound quality problem is wind noise. Have you tried ringing any kind of wind noise blocker? There are many commercial and DIY options out there.

I'm no expert but I highly doubt that gopro USB-mic adapter would work on anything but a gopro.

February 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterzacho

If you're thinking about buying a Mobius, also see <http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/side-by-side-mobius-b-lens-vs-innovv-c1-old-new-lens-vs-panorama-ii-day-night.4104/> , in which a Mobius owner reviews it against the Innovv C1 & Panorama II (an excellent $200 dashcam).

February 3, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hi,

I just got my Mobius 1080p. But yesterday when I plug it in my OSD, which has a 12V supply battery, it burned. It won't turn on. So, I've been researching a lot since then and discovered that I should have used a UBEC in order to convert 12V into 5V to power the camera on. OK, my mistake. My only question now is if I can, by any chance, repair it. I opened the camera case and the module looks just fine. No burning smell or darkness in any components. Can anybody help me? Thanks a lot.

Tiago

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTiago

What's a OSD and UBEC?
If you have connected 12V directly to the usb port or the battery terminals you have most likely done permanent damage.
Try charging it with the usb lead to a 5v supply. Does any LED come on / flash?
Does you pc recognise it when connected to the pc USB port?

If these don't work. You could try removing the battery and charge it with a external charger.
Then reconnect or connect a power supply to the battery connections
(maybe if your very lucky you only damaged the charging circuit on the camera)
((Note that the battery is only 3.6volts))

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohn2002

If you used 12V instead of 5V you have most likely damaged the DRAM module and probably the DSP as well. A few other key components such as the charger IC and a diode or two will also have been damaged. These components are not specified for such high voltages. A repair is more than likely totally out of question. Even if a repair were possible, it would involve an awful lot of time to find which components have been damaged and finding replacement parts will be all but impossible.

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIsoprop

Need Commentors HELP.....
At 15:03 in the Vid is an ad for OTG adapter cable that interconnects a/c wart to phone to camera. It says available at eletopoline, but we cannot find it there in the US. Anyone seeing it elsewhere?

February 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterCho CoMo

I was hoping that the rotation setting to have 90 degrees so that I can fit it close to the side of the helmet.

February 6, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterCannonball

Hi Mat,

There are too many comments to go through to search for my answer, I hope you don't mind me posting the question here even if there is a possibility that the same question may have already came up.
Can you, or anyone reading this recommend a portable power pack for this camera?
I live in Australia.

Thanks,
Khanh

February 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKhanh

@Khanh

I use an Anker E4 (13000 mAh), which is excellent, but you expect that from Anker.

The important thing is that the Mobius needs 1A & 5V (+/- 0.5V). Any less & the internal LiPo battery is at risk of overheating, with unpleasant consequences.

February 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Mat and All, I would like to order a Mobius from JooVuu, or maybe an 0801 with A7 (promised late Feb/early March) but I am puzzled by the lack of seller information on their web site - no address, no phone, not even an email (or they are well hidden)? It is the first time I have encountered such secrecy.

I have seen people's comments mentioning them here (none negative), can someone give some more info about them?

Rule No. 1 for web shopping - do not shop from anonymous sites?

February 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJon

I bought two cameras from Joovuu and they were ok (ten days I think, so not stunningly quick) however one camera is faulty just under six months and I am having no joy getting it replaced. They will only let you return suspect faulty units up to 30 days, check their T&C's. They believe as it is an action camera you are likely to do things with it that could cause it to become faulty, and as they cannot verify this they are not prepared to entertain anything after that first month. They say they have been in touch with both trading standards and solicitors and stand by this. They believe the sale of goods act has been replaced with something else that allows them to behave like this. Unfortunately that means my next step is to small claims court them to obtain a refund.

February 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Plumb

At face value the joovuu.com site does appear to be hiding something through use of a PO Box address and having the the domain registered through a privacy company to hide the real owner's address.
I've made two orders for 1 and then 2 cameras from the official eBay seller eletoponline365 in China, both times the camera(s) arrived in 7 days to the UK, so 10 days for an apparent UK-UK postal delivery does appear somewhat on the long side.

February 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

OK, I just got my awesome little Mobius camera today, and I have a question that I haven't seen addressed in any of the forums. My primary (or secondary) use of this camera isn't as a webcam, but lacking daylight, I have been playing with it tonight in this config. I've got great video, but just can't seem to be able to record any audio while in "webcam" mode (USB tethered to PC). It works fine recording internally to the SDHC memory card.

I have tried using AMcap, and various other video capture programs without success. In fact, it doesn't appear to me that there is even a USB audio driver being loaded on the PC. In AMcap, I can select "Mobius" as the video source, but it doesn't appear as an audio source, like my USB Microsoft webcam does. Nor does it appear as a choice in Windows 7 audio "recording devices".

Am I am missing something obvious, or does this baby just not encode and send the audio via USB? I have scoured the otherwise comprehensive manual (Thanks Isoprop!) and various forums, but don't see anything about webcam audio support. Not really a big deal, but it is puzzling me because when I think "webcam", I think video+audio. What am I missing?

February 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTRM

@TRM

Even today I think you can still buy cheap webcams that are video only. In Mobius webcam mode, video is supported but not audio.

February 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

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