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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

@grinder

The Mobius should last for years!! 4-5 useages is not an acceptable life time. You should contact JooVuu and get a replacement from him, since you've got a defective Mobius from JooVuu.

EU guidelines stating that the warranty on items should be a year!

March 3, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

@Grinder

It may be worth posting your problem at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904559

There is more technical knowledge about Mobius there than anywhere but the manufacturer.

March 3, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Thanks for responses.
JooVuu does not provide telephone contact/support that I can find and has not responded to three support requests to date.
It looks like a job for Trading Standards if I do not get a response shortly.
I have never experienced such a lack of support in many years

March 3, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGrinder

@Grinder

Please post your experience at http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/forums/owner-feedback-on-vendors.27/

March 4, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

got into setup on my Mobius but can't set the date? help

March 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJoe

@joe

Do you mean msetup? You should tick "Sync Date/Time" to yes and "Time Stamp" to On (in the basic settings tab)

March 4, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Sir,
Trying to find the video in which you exchanged the lens in the mobius camera to suit it better for a dash cam. I would like to find out how you did that. Also, wondering if a 90degree lens could be put on the mobius so that it could clip on to a jacket and be worn that way. Thanks for any assistance.

March 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRichard Hagen

@Richard

It's at http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2014/2/24/using-a-mobius-camera-and-some-accessories-to-make-my-ideal.html

March 5, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hey guys has anyone experienced the video going all wavy? I have my mobius on my motorbike handlebars, the faster I go the more wavy it looks? kinda makes me feel sea sick...I have tried updating the firmware but still the same...any help or suggestions would be much appreciated guys..

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterlargey

@largey

What you're seeing is the result of vibration on a camera with a rolling shutter (CMOS), where the image is scanned line-by-line which results in distortions if the camera is being moved at the time, global shutter (CCD) cameras don't have this problem.

See the difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-h46Zz9YZQ

CMOS sensors are cheaper to make than CCD sensors, that's why virtually all dashcams and mobile phones use CMOS sensors.

You'll need to secure the camera even better to reduce the wobble.

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

@Haku

Thanks for the prompt reply mate, I fully understand now cheers...
Now I can concentrate on a more absorb-able mount hopefully?

King regards
Largey

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterlargey

@largey

How about a helmet mount, e.g. http://youtu.be/GV9VwXeYwgs

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@russ331

Tnx anyway mate, but i need it on my motorcycle as I have it hooked into a hard wired USB.
It works great as far as just starting my bike and it just kicks in...
I actually use it as a crash cam... Ive been run over 3 times on my motorcycle going to work in the last 15 years

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLargey

@Largey

You don't have to power it from your motorcycle battery. The average current draw is around 500mAh, so a small rechargeable external battery could easily provide 10 hours recording time. Battery in jacket pocket, short USB cable from pocket to helmet. Job done. Plus, when you're parked & admiring other peoples rides, you can carry on filming.

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@Largey: at first I fixed mine in the side flash and it was terrible, but next I fixed it at the handlebars and it was very fine, no wobble at all. Are you using the included foams? They helped me a lot.

@Russ: I was also inclined to install a USB port within the bike battery. Could you elaborate on the 'external battery' idea please (model, autonomy)?

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

@Xezi

I use an Anker Astro E4, which I plug into my Mobius when my car is parked unattended at the supermarket, etc. My lighter socket doesn't receive power when engine is off.

The E4 has a 13,000 mAh capacity, & can power my Mobius for over 20 hours. It will fit in a jacket pocket easily, but weighs 300g, so you may prefer a smaller one like the Anker Astro 3,000mAH 'lipstick' model. Best to stick with a quality brand like Anker & PowerGen.

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@Russ
Fantastic, let's get anker.

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

@Xezi,@russ331

What are the included foams? I did not receive anything like that? did you mount yours in the center of your handle bars or near the mirrors?
I found the more I move the camera away from the center it gets worse..ie: it obviously must have more vibration at the end of the handlebars.
russ331 I find it easier to have the camera all set up on the bike mate...besides I think it is illegal in Australia to have anything mounted onto your helmet?

March 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterlargey

FYI The capacitor is £3.88 delivered here - http://www.banggood.com/Super-Capacitor-For-The-Mobius-Action-Sport-Camera-p-918122.html

Had conformation from eletopoline365 that they are an official seller of Mobius equipment

Also, if you use discount code b185f7 it knocks an additional 5% off any product across the site. Every little helps.

March 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterByron

Positive vote for Joovuu - after logging a ticket for a faulty Mobius I have now had a replacement sent to me with some nice compensatory freebies. Very happy :)

March 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Plumb

This is a great camera for what it is. It's an inexpensive (cheap) purpose built camera with the uncanny ability to take crisp useable video w/sound. It is what it is and it does it well.

I just can't understand why some people are trying to take a VW and turn it into a Porsche. I'm very satisfied with what I have at the price I paid. As a matter of fact it exceeded my expectations. I've read the 440+ comments and some are spot on, others not so much. Some of the features requested would more than triple the price of this camera, something I myself would not like to see .

One more point. When is the last time you've seen a manufacturer who actually listens to the customer and comes out with regular firmware updates to improve useability? I for one haven't seen such interaction with customers even with cameras that cost 10 times as much.

Rick. (going to sleep now, maybe I'll feel differently when I wake up)

March 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRick Z

I have a Möbius and I am perfectly happy with it. But I can't help but notice the difference between its video quality ant that of iPad3 that I have. The difference is quite noticeable. Ipad3 is much better under normal and many other conditions such as low light, For those of you who are techies, can you tell me in terms of the video res? Both are rated as 1080p at 30 fps. Also, is there a dash cam that is as good as (or close to) iPad3? Thanks.

March 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenteraturkaz

I really haven't looked but I suppose if you found a dash cam with the specs of an iPad it would be pretty expensive. The dash cams just don't have the processing power equivalent of a computer. (yet)

5 megapixels
Aperture size:
F2.4
Focal length (35mm equivalent):
35mm
Features:
PopupBack-illuminated sensor (BSI), Autofocus, Touch to focus, Face detection, Geo tagging

Camcorder:

1920x1080 (1080p HD) (30 fps)
Features:
Digital image stabilization
Rick

March 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRick Z

@aturkaz

If you want a dashcam with visibly better video quality than Mobius, you'll have to treble your budget to buy the $200 Panorama II ... a camera that matches / outperforms $300 dashcams. Mobius acquits itself very well against the Panorama II, the superiority of which only being apparent on unlit roads at night ...

http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/night-mobius-b-lens-v0-59-vs-panorama-ii-v1-08-05-vs-v1-11-09-beta.4496/

March 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

From my experience the quality is 1080i[not taking advantage of all 1080 lines available] not P! I took video on my RC plane plugged the micro card to my SJ1000 camera, mini HDMI cable to my 1080P TV and checking the signal quality coming in it revealed 1080i. I'm more than pleased w/ my little TicTac Mob camera, thou.

March 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkurt john

HDMI out is 1080i. Files recorded are 1080p.

March 12, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

@kurt john

Use a video analysis tool like Mediainfo.exe & drop a Mobius native unedited video into it & see what it says in the Video section in the "Scan Type" field. I can save you some time... it starts with a P not an I.

March 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Thx, I just checked my Utube Channel and does have 1080p for my video quality.

March 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkurt john

eletoponline365 don't seem to have the wide angle lens yet (they say they're still testing it). Does anyone know of another officially recommended seller that sell the Mobius with the wide angle lens preinstalled?

Thanks,
01

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenter01

A01:

check our website (Mobius-Cam.com) or check the official vendor list on rcgroups: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25170905&postcount=2

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

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