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Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

@01

I've been using the Mobius Wide Angle Model (Mobius B) since September. It is fully tested. Every seller listed in the link posted by mobius-cam above sells Mobius B, though not all list it on their websites. Contact your preferred seller for price / availability from stock

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

anyone has ever gotten hi temp problems with vanilla Mobius cam? the heatsinks of mine get untouchably hot sometimes (when
the day is hot), and I just wonder if I'm taking chances of killing it.

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

01, eletoponline365 is the manufacturer and he (Peter Xie) has the wide angle ones in stock. I received mine from him only a few weeks ago and works perfectly.

Order from him direct too for best price and service. It took only 6 days to reach me in the UK after sending from China. A lot of these third party sellers have shocking customer service and will do whatever they can to wriggle out of their obligations in the event of a problem.

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlsitheelad

@Xezi

From the Manual... "The two heat sinks can become very hot during operation. This is normal, but all the same you should never leave the camera turned on where the surrounding temperature exceeds ~47°C (118°F) - for example in a car parked in the baking sun. If you wish to use the camera in very hot conditions you should ensure the heat sinks are adequately cooled, for example by directing cool air onto the metal plates or using a ventilator to dissipate the heat away from the metal plates. High temperatures will also damage the internal LiPo battery. If you use your camera in very hot conditions with external power, for example as a dashcam, you should consider replacing the battery with a Super Capacitor pair. These can be purchased from most suppliers who sell the Mobius. A Super Capacitor pair enables the camera to correctly save the last recording when external power is removed. A fully charged Supercap has enough energy to keep the RTC (Real Time Clock) running for several days (about 7-10) without external power connected. It only takes a few minutes to fully charge the Supercap.".

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

yes, I've read the manual more than once, and am aware of these details, tx. But, I was interested if someone has experienced any problems regarding it, in day to day use. Also, I was wondering that, maybe, if the heatsinks could occupy both side portions of the enclosure, they would be larger, and, air convection should be a bit more efficient, be the cam up or down. Not sure if those parts could be positioned 90o to the PCB tough. Just wondering.

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

How is the Motion Detection working, is it sensitive enough?

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkurt john

Confused. :?

I did contact eletoponline365 who told me that they are testing the wide angle lens and that it is not yet available.

I also saw the wide angle lens on banggood.com but would rather buy using eBay if possible in case there are any issues.

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenter01

@kurt john

See thread at...

http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-in-motion-detect-mode.3656/

March 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

told my girlfriend to take a video on my Mobius and she was holdin down the mode button and then I don't know what else she done.now the yellow indicator comes on but I cant get it to record or change modes or anything.any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. thnx

March 16, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjd

Solid yellow is standby mode. Push the record button (the one with the camera icon) it should start recording. If that doesn't work try the reset button. (reset hole is located on the back side above the sd card) The reset is the smaller hole next to the rear facing LED on the inboard side. If none of that works take the 2 screws out of the case and disconnect the battery for about 10 minutes. After the 10 minutes reconnect the battery and it should boot again.
If none of that works "I got nuthin".

Rick

March 17, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRick77

The supplier of my Mobius feels unable to recommend a usb wall charger for the Mobius due to general poor quality of such units. The "manual" suggests one with a rating no more than 4.7 volts and even then a voltage stable unit. Other sites blithely states that a 5v is fine but it as the power unit is not guaranteed officially this ( apparently in the UK at least) leaves a catch 22: there does not seem to be a correctly rated charger but unless one is used the guarantee can be voided by failure due to use of any other.
There seems to be little posted about this problem which I am having.
I will be very grateful for some advice in this respect.

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGrinder

This sounds a great camera unfortunately Elotoponline are out of stock of the wide angle for at least a couple of months, I guess at these prices paying 50% more to a UK re seller is not too painful.

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGordon

@Grinder

If you have a USB smartphone or tablet charger, that will work fine. Any wall charger rated at 5V 1A will do the job.

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@Gordon

I also tried/failed to order a Mobius B from Eletoponline earlier this week. I've now ordered it from Banggood .... a Mobius-authorised reseller.

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

"Solid yellow is standby mode. Push the record button (the one with the camera icon) it should start recording. If that doesn't work try the reset button. (reset hole is located on the back side above the sd card) The reset is the smaller hole next to the rear facing LED on the inboard side. If none of that works take the 2 screws out of the case and disconnect the battery for about 10 minutes. After the 10 minutes reconnect the battery and it should boot again.
If none of that works "I got nuthin".

Rick"

My Mobi stopped working with a blue light showing. Turned it off and on a few times but still stayed blue. Took the card out and did everything Rick recommended.

Tried it again, still only blue light.

Then I held the reset button in and pressed the hell out of all the buttons and it started flashing red and then orange.

All fixed, Yay!

March 23, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJac

just to give a follow-up: I've had a nasty problem with 64G card recording and commented it here, but the problem was the card indeed. New card just arrived, and it's working ok with Mobius, as it should. Cheers.

March 30, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

Got one of these delivered in January 2014, had to return it 7 weeks later as it took a lot of messing to get it to start in the car, the swop for a new one was painless and I sent via email the POP, (Proof of Posting), for the faulty camera, the new one was sent and from me posting to receiving the new one was 9 days, Eletoponline paid postage both ways as the camera was faulty.

But I have a question I hope someone can answer, here in the UK we change the clocks twice a year, on 30th March they went forward by one hour, how do I change the clock time on the camera as it is now 1 hour slow?

Thanks

DGL

March 31, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDGL

@DGL

Connect Möbius to the Windows GUI on your PC. It will automatically synchronise the correct date/time.

March 31, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

I recently got a harness from dx.com to use when riding my bike as I found that the handlebar mount made for too much "jello" effect and it works quite well. Could come in handy for skiing too. That camera is really amazing. It would be perfect if it had a removable battery and a waterproof case (the joovuu one seems a bit clunky) but I guess the SJ4000 has that covered so it might be time to get one...

March 31, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterwebvan

russ331, thanks for that, I did this earlier when I formatted the card but it did not change the time, whilst waiting for a reply I tried again by turning the "Sync Date/Time" off then back on again, this time it worked.

March 31, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDGL

@ russ331

"My Mobi stopped working with a blue light showing. Turned it off and on a few times but still stayed blue. Took the card out and did everything Rick recommended.

Tried it again, still only blue light.

Then I held the reset button in and pressed the hell out of all the buttons and it started flashing red and then orange.

All fixed, Yay!"

Can you please give more detail about what buttons you pushed and for how long as well as possible fixes? My mobi is stuck on just showing the blue light like yours!! Please help!

April 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlex133

@Alex133

Make sure the battery is fully charged. Insert a paperclip into the reset hole, & press the reset button for a few seconds.. If that doesn't work disconnect the battery, wait a minute then reconnect. If that doesn't work, post your problem at...

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904559

April 5, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Thank you. I have just posted on that thread. Please take a look at the latest post for more details into my problem. I hope you may be able to provide a possible solution to my predicament.

Your welcome to reply here or on the thread. Just made an account to post it quickly. Thank you for quick response!

April 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlex133

@Alex133

At RCGroups you will, if you're lucky, get a response from Isoprop or Tom Frank or Therau2000, who were all involved in the development of the Mobius, & have much greater knowledge than me. I hope your problem is easily resolved.

April 5, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hj russ331, all I did after removing the memory card was to hold the reset button in with a toothpick with one hand and dab all three buttons randomly until a red and orange lights flashed. yay fixed but when I reinserted the card the problem returned. Out came the card, more random dabbing with the reset button held in and on came the red light and then the orange, "no memory card" flash so I put in a NEW card and now everything works fine, Hope my scientific method works for you.

April 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJac

Well my Mobius was involved in a crash. Now when I power up only the green LED comes on and the PC won't recognize it any longer. Is there a way to get replacement parts?

April 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBob Vincent

My experience seems unusual but here it is in case there are others not reported. The first Mobius worked about four times then refused all functions. I contacted the seller but had no reply for about three months apparently due to some communication problem or other. It was replaced by the seller but the second one never worked for me. I returned it to the seller who claimed that the technical bods did not find anything wrong. I had used it in the same way as the first but it had not worked for me. The seller has returned it to the manufacturer "as they have better testing facilities" (paraphrase). I have been given no indication when it will be returned - - I sent it back 2w ago.
The other day I had an accident in my car----------
The camera would have been very useful.
This is an abbreviated version.
The return postage fees are mounting.
The seller permits no telephone calls.

April 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGrinder

@Grinder

Hi Grinder, I'm Maarten from mobius-cam.com.

Who is the seller you are referring to? As far as I know the manufacturer doesn't test anything more than the resellers (like me) can. The reseller does need to send you a new Mobius camera when it's clear that you didn't void your warranty by opening up the Mobius or by e.g. crashing it. It's the problem of the reseller if he sells you a faulty Mobius, definitely not your problem as long as your warranty isn't void!

April 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Thanks for your comment Maarten. I must admit that I have never had such a protracted dealings with any supplier. I also note on other sites that suppliers stand the charge of the return postage when the device is faulty. In addition explanations in emails lead to misunderstandings and as a customer the absence of telephone number for support is very frustrating.
I prefer not to name the supplier at present as he/ she may be on a learning curve business wise and I would not like my one sided story to affect the business adversely. It is very frustrating however.

April 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGrinder

how do you determine which version of firmware 1.13/1.17/1.20 you have installed on your mobius?
thanks

April 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRudolph

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