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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

@Rudolph

Download the Windows GUI to your PC from the website below. Connect Mobius to your PC via the supplied USB cable. Open the GUI program, which will tell you which firmware is installed.

http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/index.html

April 22, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Can this software be used to diagnose camera issues like a failed CMOS or main board?

April 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBob Vincent

@Bob Vincent

No, the software is for setting up Mobius to your preference, e.g. 1080p/30, Time Stamp: On, Field of View: Wide, Sharpness: Normal, WB: Cloudy, etc.

April 22, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

That what I figured... But worth the question anyways :) Too bad cause if we could get a trouble code read out or a fault # that would be MOST beneficial. I love the fact we can get parts a pieces for repairs on this camera! Just wish there was a way to determine EXACTLY what you need so you don't buy the wrong item. Like a main board when you only need the CMOS, or vise/versa

April 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBob Vincent

The video quality out of this little camera is superb but as soon as I edit/upload any clips to vimeo/youtube etc the quality drops off no matter how I save it. I am using a PC with Windows movie maker/Handbrake, is it better suited a a Mac ?
Any tips or advice on how to retain the hd quality would be appreciated, thank you

April 24, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterM

Hello! Does anybody know about a cheap little lc display to be lugged to this for monitoring?

April 25, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermeine name

boy does this little baby get HOT!!!!!!!!!

April 25, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjoe

Would here be a good place to post a feature request? Tried rcgroups but no cookie.

April 25, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

Tempted to buy one from Joovuu with waterproof case with all accessories.
BUT
they are illegally stating 30 days warranty for uk purchase, this is incorrect as europe wide 2 year guarantee eu directive
1999/44/ec gives 2yrs but after 6 months buy must prove defect exists.
Secondly sales of goods act allows for upto 6 years.

if the website updates its warranty to eu wide legal responsibility, all that remains is to decide on standard or wide angle lense.

April 28, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMr Men

@ Mr Men, do not buy from Joovuu. They have terrible customer service and will do everything they can to wriggle out of resolving any issues that may arise. There are posts earlier in this thread about problems with them and I have experienced the same. I suggest you purchase it directly from the manufacturer in China, search for mobius on Ebay by seller eletoponline. He is called Peter Xie and is very customer service dedicated as I have dealt with him when I had a minor issue with mine.

April 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRob

I did not find information how long that battery last in time lapse mode. Have some one tested that? In GoPro there is problem that it cannot do power save even in time lapse mode so it is quite useless in that without external battery. How about this can this go sleep and woke up to take image? I think that if firmware support proper standby between shots that battery can last quite long.

April 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTapio

Great little camera , but I think we need a special tool to help us get the sd card in and out ! .
Has anyone got any tips/advice on how to easily accomplish this ?.
I`m currently using a 5p coin but not sure if the sd card will last too long with the pressure against it.

May 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKing Of The Road

@King Of The Road

I just always use my nail...works good enough for me:)

May 5, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Thank you for a very good review.
I consider buying this camera for my car for any accident that may happen, but some thing trouble me:
1. When I intall the camera in the car, how do I know how to direct it in the right angle, so it catches the front view correctly ? I ask
this because there is no LCD screen to guide me if my angle is good or not.
2. Should I buy the vacum mount or the stick mount ?
3. Is the USB cable long enough or should I buy a longer cable ?
4. Do you reccoment buying the capacitor and replace it with the battery (I wish to do it because of the heat of the sun) ?

Thanks,
Eyal

May 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterEyal

1. When I intall the camera in the car, how do I know how to direct it in the right angle, so it catches the front view correctly ? I ask
this because there is no LCD screen to guide me if my angle is good or not.
I did this in a try/error basis. You'll get it in no time.
2. Should I buy the vacum mount or the stick mount ?
You could buy both. First use the vacuum one, to find the position that suits you best.
Then you could replace it by the sticky one.
3. Is the USB cable long enough or should I buy a longer cable ?
Generally it's not. You will need a longer one. Pay attention to that, in the sense
that poor copper cables will not charge it very well, some not at all. I buy sh*tty ones
and can tell you that's really important.
4. Do you reccoment buying the capacitor and replace it with the battery (I wish to do it because of the heat of the sun) ?
As you read in the manual, there's is that consideration about the 'baking sun'.
I've found it particularly concerning to use the cam in hot summer days.
The heat sinks get hot in a way you could not touch them. That's something
you could remedy by positioning the cam a) not in direct sunlight, if possible
b) near or in the flow path of air conditioning.

Cheers,
Xezi

May 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

@eyal

1. You can connect it to an Android phone or tablet via OTG cable, or to laptop via USB cable or to any other display via AV cable.

In my case, it took a few minutes with a laptop to set up the aim to my satisfaction. Otherwise you can set the aim by eye, take a picture, remove the memory card & review the picture in a PC, make a slight adjustment to the aim & it's done. I've only removed the Mobius from the car twice in the past 5 months, which involved sliding it out of it's holder, which doesn't disturb the aim at all.

2. Plenty of mounting solutions at...

http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-mounting-solutions.2654/

3. Mobius sellers offer a 3 metre power cable, which is long enough to run behind the roof lining, down the A pillar, behind the dash trim to the cigarette lighter socket.

4. Yes. Especially if you live in a hot climate. Also if you don't, as a car is not a suitable environment for a LiPo battery. All expensive DashCams use capacitors instead of batteries.

May 8, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

In case anyone is interested (Tapio?), I did a photo timelapse test (mobius standard version) to see how long the internal accu would last.

Timelapse setting: one photo every 2 seconds, photo size 1920x1080.
Accu died after 2 hrs + 26 minutes (146 minutes) = 4383 photos taken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJfa7xdGmcs

In a next test I'll try and see if the accu will last longer or shorter when I set the Mobius to take a photo e.g. every 10, 30 or 60 seconds.

Thanks for your wonderful review videos, Mr. Techmoan, I love your 'subtle funny' - while at the same time highly informative - style of reviewing, a real pleasure to watch!

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJan

Thanks Jan for letting us know! Impressive facts! WIth an external battery pack from about 1200mAh it would be possible to even get about 6 hours of continue time lapse photographing!

Great to hear that you are so happy with your Mobius camera!

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Yes, Maarten, very happy with it so far :-)

Btw, I bought a "Soundlogic™ XT" external battery pack at the Aldi recently, for €12.95, with specs:
. capacity: 5600 mAh
. input: DC 5V 0.8 A
. output: DC 5V 1A

That should also work with the Mobius, in principle, right?

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJan

Hi Jan, yes no problem you can use the "soundlogic XT". Awesome price by the way...Aldi did a good job:) As long as the output is really 1A it will works great with the Mobius!

One thing to mind though, is that lots of the "chinese" battery packs are overspecsificated on the packaging, but still you definitely will increase your record time! Please let us know your findings!

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Okay Maarten, thanks for the info, I will 'carefully' try it out at first ;-)

Ah, btw, it was the "Action" where I bought the Soundlogic, not the "Aldi"...

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJan

Hi there, love your videos (and have 2 808 #16 Lens D that I bought after watching your videos). Could you help me with these 2 questions?

I use a 808 #16 as a helmet cam, inside my helmet (velcro snapped near my left eye) what allows me to record video and my own voice. So:

1) A Mobius or Innovv C1 - heard that these 2 can get hot. Will this overheat prevent me to use them near my face like I already do with the 808 #16 (it does not touch my face/eye and I cannot feel any heat).

2) Is there a Mobius, Innovv C1 or 808#16 (or any cam with the same video quality) with a MIC Input? This way I could snap it outside the helmet and run a MIC cable inside my helmet and still record my voice.

Thank you for your videos and any help you can provide me on this questions.

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterHugo

@ Hugo,

Regarding your first point: I would not recommend you to place a Mobius to close to your face. The mobius can become seriously hot, specially in a non ventilated environment like a helmet. The mobius gets much hotter then the 808's!

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

mobius-cam thanks for the info. Any version with mic input on the plans?

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterHugo

Could someone tell me if the mobius camera is usable staight from the box ( after battery charging )
Or does it need to be configured first to take video.

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commentervic

@Vic

You can use it straight out of the box, but it will be better to make some settings.

E.g.: Date/Time, Hz for your country (europe 50, rest of the world 60) are some really basic settings. The Hz setting is important because the wrong setting will give flickering lights!

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

As you seem to suggest that you have some sway with the manufacturer, there's one simple thing that would make this the truly ideal dashcam. Get them to put the power input on the side rather than the back. That way, you could probably save about 2-3cm of space needed and almost guarantee that this camera would tuck away behind the rear view mirror on nearly every car

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMike Ryan

Hi Ryan,

I will make this suggestion to the factory. However I do not think they will adapt this change, simply because it means they have to reconstruct the whole PCB again! But I totally agree with you, it would be much better to have a sideways USB port when you use the Mobius as a Dash Cam.

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Could a stubby 90 degree power plug go to sorting problem?

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDAN

Hi, great review. Is there much picture difference or spec between the standard lens and wide angle? Apart from the obvious of course? Planning on using it in car?

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterrmolly

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