Donations

You can help fund Techmoan with a donation

Click to visit Patreon.com/Techmoan  

SEARCH BOX: Searches this website

*SHOPPING LINKS ARE AFFILIATED*

For more info on this - click on "About' at the top of the page. 


IMPORTANT NOTICE for COMPANIES

Techmoan never approaches a company asking for review samples.

 


    

Articles by Category

 


Techmoan Merchandise at TeeSpring

Merch


Pick of the Camera Reviews

(Click the pictures for reviews & links) 

ACTION CAMS

Yi 2 - Best Budget 4K 

Gitup Git2 (My Pick)

Xiaomi Yi

Dazzne P2

SJCAM M10+
 
DASH-CAMS (CAR DVRs)
 
A119
Yi

Yi Ultra 2.7K
   
    MINI CAMERAS
Mobius (also works as a Dashcam)
Polaroid Cube+
    HELMET CAMERA
Sena Prism Tube

My favourite USB battery power Pack

This is the excellent USB power pack I use when I travel.

2 x 2.1amp outputs. 8400mAh capacity.

Two digit Led display shows battery level

 

What SD CARD should I buy?

If you want an SD Card for your camera - these are the ones I use and recommend. 

I'd strongly recommend not to buy any SD cards off ebay - I've heard about too many issues with counterfeit cards - often sold on by unwitting resellers. My inbox regularly gets messages from people who bought a £150 camera then cheaped out and bought a £3 memory card on ebay - Then when it doesn't worth they blame the camera! It doesn't make any sense. Good memory is cheaper than it's ever been - see the links above.

A lot of HD cameras will not work properly with cards larger than 32GB (cards over 32GB are usually SDXC rather than the SDHC standard used by 32GB cards. SDXC cards use the ex-FAT system rather than FAT32 - in short they are a different standard). - so don't just buy the biggest card you can afford - read the specs in the manual to see what it accepts.

UK & US LINKS & PRICES BELOW

RECOMMENDED CARDS (for action cams - see dashcams below)

CLASS 10 UHS-1 CARDS (For HD Cameras)

 

U3 CARD (For 4K cameras)

 

 

SPECIAL DASHCAM CARDS

The SD card in a dashcam is re-written over, more frequently than in other types of cameras. Some manufacturers void their guarantee if an SD card was used in a dashcam. So, no surprise, there are special High Endurance SD cards made just for dashcams...here's some.

 

VERY IMPORTANT. These links take you to the product, however Amazon have three different ways of selling. There's Amazon Direct - This means that you are only dealing with Amazon themselves, then there's other sellers that use Amazon's facilities - these show as Fulfilled By Amazon and finally there's Market Place sellers that advertise on Amazon, but operate independently.  I strongly recommend that you only use the first...the Amazon Direct - Sold By Amazon option. Even if it appears that you are paying a couple of £/$ more it is more than likely you are comparing the price of a real item against the price of a fake.

To give you an idea of the extent of the fake goods problem. In a 2016 survey by Apple - 90% of the 'Apple' chargers sold through Amazon - using the other the two methods..which includes the "Fulfilled by Amazon" option -  were found to be counterfeit....90%! 

            

 
« The MicroMuff - Wind Noise Killer | Main | The Contour Roam 2 - Using the right tool for the job »
Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

EmailEmail Article to Friend

Reader Comments (918)

@Jan, Tapio

I ran some time lapse tests, both with external battery (Anker E5) and power adapters.

The thing is, whenever I used 1A outputs, be it ext battery or adapter, Mobius took some pics (~2.500, but that varies),
then turned off and kept charging only.

When using 2A outputs, it went steady. Yesterday I took ~50k 1s shots with a 2A power adapter, no brownouts, everything was ok.

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

@rmally

For dashcam use the wide angle lens is a better choice. It captures more peripheral evidence, e.g. cars pulling out of side roads into your path, & it outperforms the standard lens at night...

http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-b-lens-better-at-night-than-a-lens-v0-57-no-problem-for-me.3201/

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

russ331

Thanks very much for that.

May 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterrmolly

Hi im having problems recording (using as a dash-cam in car) when i turn the ignition on it stars recording and works great but when i start the engine it stops recording and i cant seem to get it to start again, it just has the green LED light on constant, as if i have it plugged in charging. I am using the cable it came with plugged into a USB adapter for 12v in car socket. any help would be great, thanks.

May 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBigbang

+1

May 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

Try the reset button.

May 23, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDGL

Hi Matt, I am a mega gadget freak, last owning a go pro hero 3 black edition, which drove my wife nuts with the amount of accessories you have to buy to make it usable.
Yesterday, on my Facebook feed, a little advert popped up advertising the Mobious.
I watched your excellent Youtube review, and ordered one instantly ! I am hoping to receive it tomorrow, and can't wait to get stuck in with it, again, many thanks for an excellent review.

May 23, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

Glad to be of help. The Mobius is a camera you can use when you don't want to risk your expensive GoPro. If you look at my twitter account twitter.com/techmoan you can see a near miss it recorded today when it was doing its dashcam duties.

May 23, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

I have no problems auto start/stop recording using 12v I found in the courtesy light that only becomes live when the engine is running. I used an in-line 12v to mini USB cable on dx.com I bought for a few quid. I think some cars supply 12v to the cigar plug when you go to the ignition on position and drop it while you start the car so the camera powers off and doesn't come back on.

The other thing you could do is disable the auto power-off in the options which may or may not be a good thing that it carries on recording when you switch the ignition off. I have changed mine to this mode anyway as largely if you capture any driving shenanigans you will hit the 'M' button to save the clip anyhow. You never know what happens when you switch off and it records for an hour or so on the battery.

May 23, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Plumb

Hi,

In your videos of the Mobius, did you have WDR on in both shots daylight and nighttime?

May 24, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRoy

WDR was added to the firmware six months after I shot this video. I believe it's still a beta feature as it can cause some unwanted effects.

May 24, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

After many hours, days and weeks searching for the best CAM for my money....I finally set up for a MOBIUS CAM, and bought one from ELETOPONLINE....(Mandy is a nice person and answered my last questions with friendship)..... SO, (thanks to Matt too) now I am a happy guy with a MOBIUS CAM....and yes sure, the VIDEO QUALITY is outstandingly GOOD for the price paid....I can now tackle the GO PRO fans, them do not like people having the same quality image than theirs for a price 5 times under the price they paid for their GO PRO, (all of a sudden, they do not feel rich anymore).....It's fun seeing them gesticulate in tons of words, trying to justify their buying a GO PRO at the high price, faced to the video quality n the price of the MOBIUS.....They get quickly ennoyed, n show often bad temper tryng to put down MOBIUS cam without even knowing it at all...They are so fun to tease a bit these GO PRO religious guys.....

Now...I have to find a way, to stick it on my MOTOBIKE....and I invented this against JELLO triffle....(no it's not a new song from Jennifer Lopez)

http://youtu.be/R8NJUZY1rCE

I will try it on the bike soon....this sunday in fact, if no rain, but here (SAVOIE part of France), It does not rain often

Now I need to find a good battery pack for long hours filming with my MOBIUS cam, on the bike...If you know any good ones and cheap (Matt, or others), please do contact me by my mail given here...and tell me...

May 24, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDESFORM

Does this camera use a standard M12x0.5 lens? I'm more interested in telephoto than wide angle.

May 25, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMavrik

i enjoyed your reviews on the mobius camera and the water proof casing, do you know what has happened to the "joovuu" web site as i can't get it now have not been able to for a 3 days now, do you know if they have been closed down or anything like that and is anybody else having this problem.
WM

May 27, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterpatella1

I want to follow up on Mavrik's question as it seems to have not been answered yet. I'm also interested in a telephoto lens option for the mobius. Is there a telephoto lens that can be bought for replacing the standard lens?

May 27, 2014 | Unregistered Commenteraturkaz

Howdy Jan,
I tried doing the time-lapse and was just getting video w/ the flashing blue light. Could u tell us ur settings and what lights shud be on? Thx

May 28, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkurt john

You need to plug your mobious into a PC, boot up Msetup, and set time lapse delay in there. Then just turn it on, and select camera mode, ( Red LED, after 2 presses of the mode button ) then just press the shutter button, I tried it for over an hour the other day, it worked perfectly ! hope this helps !

May 28, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

It's back up and running now, ordered the waterproof case this morning !

May 28, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

Thx Chris,
I thought for sure pics were the blue light, I'll try later on some clouds, Cya

May 28, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkurt john

Yvw Kurt, I cannot sing the praises of this little camera enough, I can't wait to recieve my JooVoo waterproof case, I am going to drop it into my fish tank, I will share the video when it is ready !

May 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

@ Chris, I know what ur saying, it is a blast. You can check my Utube channel for my RC flying especially the pylon racer!--https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClnPnTAIXGsUb28p5CspcQQ--Enjoy!

May 29, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkurt john

Hi peeps....be carefull, the waterproof case (joowuu) is not an underwater casing, it will not take it iF there is high pression, it's conception ENGENIERING is not right for that.....(it's in 2 part and the thighness of the 2 parts are assured by a single rubber joint on wich the 2 parts stick on...sticking provided by to handle that tighthen them by the mean of 2 wery weak plastic hooks....

The first mistake is that : only one security assured by a very thin rubber joint and weak hooks

The second mistake is the 2 parts roughly tightenable in the middle......this is the weakest mean to this pseudo waterproofing casing.....it will snap in two by the water pressure when u go down underwater and if u want to see what I mean...take the Joowu waterproof casing on a diving and notice how little depth u can go before it snaps in two, floding its brocken parts....1 give it 5 meters deep, once to snap......

The Joowuu Mobius waterproof casing is not for underwater, it's too badly ingeniered for that...even well designed, well engeniered under water casings ends up leaking sooner or later..The JOOWUU casing is not for underwater sports...it is only a weather proof casing, that's all...you can only use it for that safely.....(note a fish tank has no WATER PRESSION)

You have been warned now

May 29, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterdesform

That's fine Kurt, It's compression you are talking about, but i understand perfectly what you are saying, and do not own or want to own any diving equipment, I only wish to drop my Mobious in a fish tank or shallow pond, and to use it in the rain, for which I am sure the case will serve me well. Nice aerial video's, I had a Parrot HD not long ago, but it was so unstable in the slightest breeze, more or less unusable !

May 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

> I want the mobius to continue recording automatically when I power off my car... but I can´t and Mobius has memory full charged.
> Power off disconn = 10 secs

You need to change the power off disconnect to "2". This is from my config file (I am on version 1.20). The camera starts up and auto-records then when I switch the ignition off, it continues to record until the battery is exhausted. If you wish it to power off straight away you just have to press the front button nearest the lens and recording is stopped.

Power on=[1];set system power on time,0:delay,1:fast
Power off=[1];set system auto power off time when system pending,0:off,1:30 seconds,2:1 minutes,3:2 minutes,
Auto Record with External Power=[1];set connect with power to start video recording automatically,0:off,1:on,
One Power Button to Auto Record=[0];set press power key to start video recording automatically,0:off,1:on,
Auto Off with External Power disconnected=[2],0:Immediately,1:delay 10s;2:record to low battery power off,

May 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Plumb

Here is my first video using the JooVuu case !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx5nox_QRx0&feature=youtu.be

May 30, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

I would like to connect Mobius Action Cam to 4.3" HD mini digital player ( DO QUICK RK-5005S ) using mini USB link. The player will record but is it possible to use the player as a real time monitor.Has anyone tried it ?
Best Regards
Ged

June 1, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGed

Has anyone give the wide angle version of the Mobius a run for it's money yet?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wide-Angle-Mobius-ActionCam-Full-HD-Sports-Camera-Camcorder-1080P-30FPS-720P-/310965287929?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_Camcorders&hash=item4866f9bbf9

June 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris

The wide angle lens is great, especially with the newest firmware! It really is a good quality lens and does a great job for circumstances you need a wide FOV!

Btw...I highly recommend you to pick one of the verified Mobius camera sellers! see http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904559

June 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

@Chris

I have two wide angle Mobius cams. Techmoan uses one in his car. It's the preferred choice if low light video quality is important to you. See...

http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2014/2/24/using-a-mobius-camera-and-some-accessories-to-make-my-ideal.html

http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-b-lens-better-at-night-than-a-lens-v0-57-no-problem-for-me.3201/

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25170905&postcount=2

June 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Cheers guys :-)
I just want a wider FOV as I'll be using it solely as a dash cam.
Going by Techmoan's recommendations, this supplier in the UK should be a safe choice:
https://joovuu.com/gb/home/61-mobius-action-camera-wide-angle-lens.html

June 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris

PostPost a New Comment

Enter your information below to add a new comment.
Author Email (optional):
Author URL (optional):
Post:
 
Some HTML allowed: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong>