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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

@Saran

I think one of the problems (despite that a change in the firmware by the developers could fix it) is that the car charger you are using probably don't have any capacitor installed in it. A capacitor will definitely do the trick since it will get rid of the voltage/current drop as soon as you start your engine (after already applying power to the circuit by turnign your key once).

Do you use the original Mobius car adapter? Maybe it's worth trying..I didn't had these problems myself with the mini0801 en mini0803, However I never tested the Mobius as a dash cam.....

June 27, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Sudden and quick supply voltage drops/bounces are common in many applications, not only car chargers but
remote controlled airplanes, cars, boats and the like.

This issue of unwanted auto shutdown could be easily remedied with firmware provision,
adding a user configurable deadband time after power on, which could defaults
to zero and in this way would be seamless to 'most mobius users'.

June 27, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

How about a review of the little electronic scales you used to weigh the Mobius in your camera review? There are many 500g models available on Ebay from as little as £4 delivered. It would be good to know if they are any good, both in build quality and accuracy.

Great reviews Techmoan!

John

June 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohn B

Thank you for one of the best video reviews I have ever seen! Well thought out with excellent narration - very professional. Thank you for the time and effort.

June 30, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBrandan

@Xezi
The premature power-down when power is lost during ignition starting is being looked at, but the problem is not as easy to solve as you imply.
There are also two additional factors to consider:
1. If a supercapacitor is installed the camera can't wait more than a second or two because the capacitor will be drained and no video would be saved.
2. If power is applied during camera shutdown the trigger point will be missed and the firmware has no means of knowing if it's connected or not.
There's no possibility for the firmware to know if there's a battery or a supercap installed.
Auto-power-on will certainly work better in the upcoming major firmware release, but I don't think you can expect miracles from such a tiny device that is not designed exclusively for dash cam usage.
As russ331 pointed out, many dedicated dash cams have similar (or worse) power-on problems.

July 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIsoprop

Hmm. There's something fishy in my line of thinking then, cause when the fw decides to auto shut down during that car ignition swag, it was able to detect the absence of external voltage, but there was enough power (bat power) to keep it running till the power off sequence completion. If there was not, the cam would just black out. Thus, I (wrongly, it seems) inferred that some hw was built to support that detection and pass that state to whichever mcu is in use. Last time I did this it was a sub-dollar circuitry. That's a digikey miracle indeed.

July 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

When I connect the Mobius to my computer and go to "set up" it always brings up a window saying, "A new version was found. Do you want to update the current programme to Vers 2.0.3.7?" I always click yes, but the next time I connect the camera, and this can be within minutes or days later, it brings up the same window every time! How do I stop this? This has been going on since at least beginning of May 2014.

How do I find out which version I am using?

Also when I look at Available Firmware Version, I get v1.13, v1.17, and v1.20, which of these should I be using?

July 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDGL

@DGL:

Open msetup.exe as administrator so msetup.exe have the right to download en install the newest version of the software.

OR

manual download the latest msetup.exe

Regarding the firmware question: use the most recent.

July 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Thanks, but I do not seem to be able to open as administrator, ( I have updated before without problems), have found my Firmware version is v1.17, I have updated to v1.20.

Not being a techie where computers are concerned, how do I,"manual download the latest msetup.exe"?

.

July 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDGL

Have found the version I am using, it is: 2.0.2.2

July 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDGL

OK, not sure how I managed it, but I now have Firmware Version v1.20, and setup Version 2.0.3.7


Thanks.

July 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDGL

Hi,

How does the quality from this camera compare to the Mini 0803?

The Mini 0803 on your Youtube videos is said to be the best mini cam and yet to me on the downloaded samples, the Mobius looks clearer and sharper.

Also, if you set it to max, does it record max length clips or still clips every 5 mins?

My fear is of having an accident and then over writing the footage given there's no screen to confirm protection and very short clip lengths.

July 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

You missed a few important words......The best Mini 'DASH' Cam 'WITH A SCREEN'.
The smallest dash-cam with a screen that I've tested that I rate is the Mini 0803.
The best mini camera that I've tested which doesn't have a screen is the Mobius.
A 32GB card will store hours of footage - you'll know when you've had a crash or seen an incident, so you can take a few simple steps to avoid losing the important footage. You could...remove the SD card or alternatively avoid driving around for 5 hours afterwards and you'll still have the footage on the card.

July 8, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Ok Thanks.

My main worry was the short 5 min clips and the risk of re-writing as I thought the camera only had a 1Gb memory. I didn't realise you could add a micro SD card as well (must have missed that in the review).

I guess the answer therefore to be entirely safe, is to buy 2 SD cards and change them over like you said, although if the recording time is 5 hours, there's probably little to worry about on most journeys.

Thanks for the help, appreciated.

July 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

Hello Sir.
Have you heard anything about the Mobius 2?

If there are chances that will be available for purchase till december 2014, I would wait for it, otherwise I'm interested in buying the Mobius 1, with wide lenses and capacitor.

Thanks, Istvan

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIstvan

No I've haven't heard from the Mobius chaps for a year.

July 10, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Their Ebay says limited availability atm.

I'm trying to establish for myself if there's a new model coming as it sounds likely if the stock is becoming short. Well, either that or they've had a run on these.

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

Is it possible with the Mobius to have 2 cameras? One in the front and one in the back? But with one device? Not two devices separately.
Thank you.

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIstvan

@Istvan,

no, this is impossible (in fact it's impossible for all camera's with one sensor).

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Can I put in the Mobius a 64GB or 128GB card?
Or the max is 32GB?
Thanks.

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIstvan

Hi, it has to be a low class card to work properly , class 4 is the best, I have heard of people using 64GB cards.

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

I use a Samsung Evo, Class 10, 32 GB SDHC card (about £14 online, great value for money!) in my Mobius and it works perfectly. The card itself has some great reviews and performed very well in benchmark tests which is why, after some research, i bought one. it has been running daily in my Mobius for a couple of months with absolutely no issues. I have never had any problem using a higher class of branded SD card from a well established manufacturer, the problems appear when you use a sub-standard card or unknown manufacturer.

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterColin

I second Colin on that. Used 64GB and now 32GB cards flawlessly. But also tried 'sub-standard' (cheaper, counterfeit ones) and that was disastrous. Stick with good brands as recommended by the manufacturer and you'll have no worries.

July 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterXezi

It does sound as if there maybe a new version on the way, albeit the reply was in very poor English.

After several requests just telling me to purchase as they had stock (not what I asked), this was the final reply I got:

"Thanks for your reply. Sorry, no, the wide angle mobius camera will not be released on ebay recently, I can not make sure the exact day. "

Interpret that how you like, but it does sound as if there's a new version.

July 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

@Al

Eletoponline365 have never listed the Mobius B (Wide Angle) cam on their eBay site. You have to contact them about stock availability / pricing. Demand for the Mobius B has exceeded expectations, & Mobius recently ran out of stock of the Japanese-made lens. It apparently takes around two months for the lens manufacturer to supply more. I recently bought my second Mobius B from a UK reseller, which had some in stock when the Chinese sellers had none. Rest assured that the existing models will be available for a long time to come, with updated & improved firmware to be released any day now. As for new models, don't hold your breath ... there may be something in development, but speculating about it is a waste of time.

July 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

I can imagine that, with a bit of thought and using the current components, the camera manufacturer could work on a specific 'in-car' mount (along the lines that Techmoan and others have already done) with a compact and unobtrusive 'behind the mirror' mount and a short lead that could be wired into an interior light (or other ignition live circuit. I imagine a slightly larger than the current Mobius body that would contain all the components with a somewhat moveable lens to adjust on any angle windscreen and press-to-save-that-clip' button and USB port and an app that can read the card with a smartphone and USB to set up the camera and download clips if necessary, then 'fit and forget' the device otherwise.

July 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

Hello: I've had my mobius just over a week (dashcams being an entirely new experience to me!) and have been experimenting with the various picture quality settings. I'm guessing my laptop is struggling to keep up with the camera as playback via VLC is fine at 720p/30 frames but 1080p is definitely a challenge. It's not the end of the world as 720p quality is perfectly acceptable for my purposes - I just feel I'm missing out on the true potential of the camera. Any suggestions most welcome!

July 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlan S

@Alan S

1080p/30 video plays much more smoothly on my iPad than on my 6 year old Windows Laptop. The K-Lite Codec Pack may improve your laptop performance ... worth a try.

July 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@Russ, thanks.

@ Alan, I'd record in 1080P in any event and worry about it later. You can always get someone else to edit it!

July 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

BTW has anyone tried the car hard wire solution?

Not seen anything about this anywhere nor the visor mount.

July 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

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