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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

Matt
Can you recommend or link me to a memory card that works and is reliable for the Möbius can?
Not sure if the one I ordered comes with a memory card.

Also where/who is the best place/seller to buy assessories for the Möbius?

Thanks.

July 18, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

I've got recommended memory card links in the right hand column. I only buy direct from Amazon themselves to avoid fakes.

July 18, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Thanks Matt
I appreciate your help. Looking forward t more of your videos in the future.
keep up the good work.

July 18, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

Hi Matt

Here is a section from mobius instructions guide on cards

"Cards
Generally speaking you may use any micro SD, micro SDHC or Micro SDXC card with a
capacity of up to 64GB with this camera. Larger cards are most likely also supported but
not yet available. To avoid card compatibility problems, always use quality cards with a
speed rating of Class 4. There are known problems with a few cards that have a higher
class rating, for example some, but not all, Sandisk 32GB Ultra (class 10) will not work
properly with earlier firmware versions. You should use firmware v1.17 or above with these
cards. For the best compatibility use cards with a class 4 rating if you have them. There is
absolutely no advantage in using cards with a higher rating. The most compatible cards
are genuine Kingston. "


does this mean that a kingston class 4 is the best to use?


as I need a card will this one work 100%

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D9OQ1JS/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

the ones you have recommended are class 6 or class 10. I'm just bit confused.
Thanks

July 18, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

I use the ones I link to and have zero problems.

July 18, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Ok Thanks Russ.

I guess the wish list should include more advanced metering therefore. Maybe spot metering is required for car use (that's what GoPro recommend you use on their cameras), with area weighted metering for general use.

July 19, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

matt
No problem I will use one of your linked ones to the right. If its good enough for you its good enough for me lol!

Are you still using the Möbius in your car?
I saw your video with the white van pulling out in front of you!!! Close call!!!
Any more near misses lately?

Also can you recommend or link me to a good power adopter for the Möbius to make it work in the car? I hear that there are a few fakes float in non around that heat up when plugged in to the 12v sockets.

And one final question matt. I will be I
Using the video lead to connect to the in car dvd players which is ok as I have a extension lead for this to reach. I will need a lead to extend the power lease of the Möbius to the 12v socket can you recommend one for me?

I know the one you have in your video is a 3meter power cable (good value especially with the small clips included I thought) but as I will be using the video lead I may need a USB extension lead just to extend the power lead. I'm not sure of you can use the video lead alongside the 3 Meter power lead you have shown. But I could be wrong lol!

Thanks for your time.

July 19, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

I just ordered the mobius on the good reviews here. I my self was wondering about the heat issue due to reading other reviews but upon reading Techman and russi32 reply to TechAnt Im confident that there will be no problem with it.

I quote

Techmoan
"Yes, because it gets hot a few vocal but inexperienced individuals thought it was overheating. These people have clearly never built a PC and seen how hot a heat sink gets on a CPU. Just because something gets hot doesn't mean that it's failing, sometimes heat is good."

i totally agree a few people say something then all gets blown out of aspect. I build Pc for family and friends and I'm aware of heat sinks and their job is to get hot.

regarding russi32 quote

"If you live in a hot climate, it's a good idea to replace the battery with the $6 capacitor kit."

I take it by a hot climate meaning Australia and the likes. Here in the UK will I have to change to the capacitor or should the battery be enough? I will be using as a dash cam.

Thanks

July 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRonin34

@Ronin34

Techmoan & I are in the UK, yet we've both replaced the LiPo battery in our Mobius cams with the capacitor kit. The interior of a car parked in the sunshine on a British Summer day is easily hot enough to fry a LiPo, which may swell, prematurely fail, damage the camera or even catch fire. Unlikely, but why risk it when a capacitor kit can be bought for only $6, takes 5 minutes to installl, & eliminates the risk. LiPo batteries have no place in a car, which is why all expensive dashcams come with capacitors as standard.

One more tip to avoid problems is to ensure that the accessory socket USB adapter is genuinely rated at 1A Minimum ... not just claimed but delivered. Avoid cheapo eBay adapters (which often deliver <500mAh despite 1000mAh claims), & stick to respected brands like Anker, Griffin, PowerGen, etc. The adapter sold by authorised Mobius sellers is cheap but ok.

July 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Lost my Mobius today @ Farnborough Air Show, Think it must of fallen out of my back pocket when I put my cycle jersey back on to come home : -(

July 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterM

Can you link me to a capacitor kit and a good in car USB adopter please?

Also I want to hardwire the can into my car so would the likes of these be ok to use? I have read in the reviews some people are usimhnthese with the mini0801 and the Möbius but just want to check with you guys to be sure.

Linkhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Vktech-Charger-Converter-Module-Cable/dp/B00CXK520I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1405927852&sr=8-2&keywords=12v+to+5v


Thanks

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterronin34

@ ronin, if you go to the official dealer stores, you'll find all the accessories there:

https://joovuu.com/gb/action-cameras/14-mobius-action-camera.html

http://www.minidvcameras.co.uk/

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

Haven't tried it myself - but that hardwire USB has the right specs.

Car 12V adaptor. http://amzn.to/WpEozV
Capacitor. https://joovuu.com/gb/mobius-action-camera-accessories/95-mobius-super-capacitor-.html

July 21, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

@Russ, re: overheating in a British car, why not just put it int he boot when you leave the car? Only takes a second and stops any overheating.

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

@Al

I don't want to dismount the Mobius, that defeats the whole 'fit & forget' ideal of a DashCam. With a $6 capacitor (from Banggood) instead of the standard LiPo, I'm happy to leave Mobius in the car no matter how hot the day.

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Ah ok, I understand. I'm guessing you've gone for the extended lens and a discreet mounting in which case, yes that makes sense especially when there is a hard wire option as well.

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

Ah ok, I understand. I'm guessing you've gone for the extended lens and a discreet mounting in which case, yes that makes sense especially when there is a hard wire option as well.

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

@TechAnt
here are the links from techmoan that may be of use.

Car 12V adaptor. http://amzn.to/WpEozV
Capacitor. https://joovuu.com/gb/mobius-action-camera-accessories/95-mobius-super-capacitor-.html

what sd card did you go for?
are you hard wiring into the car?

Thanks

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRonin34

@Ronin34

thanks for the forwarding the links & to techmoan for sourcing them.
I used the samsung 32 one that Matt suggested in the righthand link.

also will be hardwiring into car and was looking at the hardwired usb you liked to

link
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vktech-Charger-Converter-Module-Cable/dp/B00CXK520I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1405927852&sr=8-2&keywords=12v+to+5v

I think it would make a very neat install especially in a fit & forget scene
Matt said it has the right specs so if i can get a longer one I will use it as it means that the mobius usb lead can be plugged in and out which would be useful.

also read russi34 text on the capcitor. are you going to upgrade the battery to a capacitor?
I was thinking it may be a good idea as uk hot summers in car can be very warm.

just one question to russi34 or Matt is the capactor 100% reliable to keep time date accuarate and save the last recording when you park and switch of engine?

cheers.

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

@TechAnt

I posted this on the DashCamTalk site on 12th July... "Update. I installed capacitors in my two Mobius cams 5 months & 2 months ago, respectively. Both cams start recording every time the engine is started. Both hold date & time correctly, & save the last file after the engine is switched off. No problems to report".

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@russ331

Thanks for the information. So do you highly recommend to change the battery to capacitor if using as a dash cam?

If I do this can I leave it in the car all the time?
I may get on for my wife's car as well so would you recommend putting a capacitor in both cameras because ideally I would like to install in a fit and forget way to both cars.

Also have you got yours hardwired in?
Just out of Interest how long will a capacitor last compared to a battery?

Thanks

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

@TechAnt

I don't know the lifespan of a Capacitor, however, I've read it's much longer than a LiPo. My Mobius cams are not hardwired. I now regard Capacitors as essential for DashCam use, & I now wouldn't consider buying any DashCam for which a Capacitor isn't standard or an option. With Capacitor, Mobius may be permanently left in the car, though it shouldn't be left recording while parked unattended on a hot day, as Mobius doesn't contain thermal overload protection circuitry.

July 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@russ331

Yeah I agree. When the capacitor is installed does the can feel Any cooler when is use than it does when in use with the battery?

Also is when the capacitor is installed is it ok for the cam to be in the parked car on a hot day as long as its not recording? I can see your point about the battery heating up with the heat.

Is there or has anyone designed a small cooling fan for the Möbius like a small fan you find in a PlayStation 2 slim or some small slim CCTV dvr's that could attach to the cradle and provide cooling to the Möbius?

July 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

@TechAnt

not sure if it would be any cooler but at least the battery had no chance of exploding due to over charging or over heating. I would say that the charging of the battery when used as a dash cam would probably generate most of the heat in the whole cam so changing fro a capacitor makes sense in these terms.

I know that I have ordered the capacitor and will take Matts advice as well and follow his video to install it. if russi and matt have had them in the UK for 8 month apx then I think all should and will be fine. at the end of the day they would not give information that would harm the cam or anything so I say listen to the pro's lol!

July 22, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterronin34

just got my Mobius today.
can anyone recommend the best settings or way to set the cam up to be used as a dash cam?
Thanks.

July 26, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

Hi Folks,
I am requesting your help on my Mobius which has lost its sound as shown on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixUPBX38rk4&feature=youtu.be

I am using it as a DashCam and all of the sudden lost the audio part since the last World Cup in Brazil.

Thanks in advance

July 27, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterPaul

Matt I am a complete newbie and well past pensionable age so please excuse silly questions. On the basis of your review of the mobius action Cam I have acquired one from amazon. Still waiting for delivery of the memory card so haven't started yet. i do have the downloaded manual and find no reference to configuring the cam on a Mac. Similarly your review has little to say on the subject either. Are you able to provide any more info on this topic? Tony

July 28, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTony Martin

@Tony

I have a Windows PC, however, I hope the following links may be useful to you... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2085613 and http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2082664

July 28, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

any one hardwired the mobius into the car? if so whats he best cables to use?
Thanks

July 28, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTecAnt

MATT

Can you look at this one last thing for me and let me know of it will power the Mobius for car Hard wring?

Link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Meter-DC-12V-24V-to-5V-3A-Right-Angled-90-Degree-Mini-USB-Power-Converter-Cable-/130978719862?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item1e7ef0a876&clk_rvr_id=672638509207&afsrc=1


on a few car forum some people are using this to run the mini0801 and the mobius but I would feel a lot better if I could get your opinion on what you think.

Thanks Matt
Your help is greatly appreciated.

July 28, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

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