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Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

Russ there's a dedicated power supply and cable available for hard wiring for £9.99:

http://www.minidvcameras.co.uk/viewitem.php?productid=111

I have on but don't have it fitted yet.

July 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

I own this camera. And a couple days ago, all movies are stored with 01/01/2013 09:35 the next video 01/01/2013 09:40, until 01/01/2013 12:00 and starts again with 01/01/2013 09:35.

I have formatted the card, I have reinstalled the latest firm, I have formatted again the card, I have reinstalled the latest firmware again, I have checked the box to sync the date, and still all my videos are stored with 01/01/2013.
What could be the problem?

July 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIstvan

Re: Dedicated power - I ordered this one from DX ~ £3.50 and it works fine - http://www.dx.com/p/184876. I found a point in the courtesy light that gave 12v only when the engine was running. Having picked up 12v there it doesn't suffer the double-dip people see by using the cigar plug that causes recording to start when you turn ignition on and stop when you crank the engine.

July 29, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Plumb

I have a couple of questions you may be able to help me with:
1. All the 5V DC external power supplies from 110-220 AC I find online come with a pin, which I can't plug into the camera. How can I connect with those?
2. In the absence of a viewfinder screen of any kind I find it difficult to properly frame my shots. Is it possible to monitor what I record on a laptop or on my Chrome book?

July 30, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlfred

@Alfred

I thought exactly what you are thinking regarding a screen. But I can tell you now the Möbius will frame almost spot on by just pointing it in thew general direction of whatever you are recording.

For ease of mind I bought the otg cable for my nexus 7 and phone can be connected to the Möbius and act as a screen to allow me to position the can into place. Also when connwdfyed I can download the videos from the can to my phone/tablet for playback or whatever.

Great little cam. And the link I posted above will allow hardwire connection from Möbius to any car so it can be a fit and forget. I know a few guys who have used this method and 9 months later all is still going strong.

July 30, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTechAnt

"For ease of mind I bought the otg cable for my nexus 7 and phone can be connected to the Möbius and act as a screen to allow me to position the can into place. Also when connwdfyed I can download the videos from the can to my phone/tablet for playback or whatever."

Interesting, can you detail the setup needed on top of an OTG cable? I suppose a special App on the smartphone?

July 30, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterwebvan

I own this camera. And a couple days ago, all movies are stored with 01/01/2013 09:35 the next video 01/01/2013 09:40, until 01/01/2013 12:00 and starts again with 01/01/2013 09:35.
I have formatted the card, I have reinstalled the latest firm, I have formatted again the card, I have reinstalled the latest firmware again, I have checked the box to sync the date, and still all my videos are stored with 01/01/2013.
What could be the problem?
Attached you can see a printscreen with the Date and hour of the camera, so you can get a better idea of the camera.
Thank you, Istvan

I forgot to tell that I have changed the battery with a capacitor. First days it worked fine and a couple days ago started the date problem.
So today, I've put back the battery and the date now is correct.
I've put back the capacitor and the date is wrong again.
So the capacitor is the problem.
I mention that I've buyed the camera on 17/07/2014. (2 weeks ago) And only after 5 days of using with capacitor, the date went wrong.

So anyways, I've just put back the battery and I'll keep using with the battery. And I'll order a replacement battery and another capacitor, to check again the problem.

Thanks for helping.

July 30, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIstvan

Thanks for the wealth of information on your Techmoan site and YouTube videos. I've been researching car dash cams for a while now and I'm glad I ran across you.

Based on what I've seen from you I've decided to buy the Mobius 1080P camera. Unfortunately, when I used your links to buy it I ran into a brick wall that Amazon.com would not ship to me in Canada. That's very disappointing because they had a great all-inclusive package with just about everything you showed in your video. So, I had to go to Amazon.ca where they don't offer that same package. I had to assemble the bits and pieces from 2 different suppliers. Anyway, long story short, the order is in and I eagerly await delivery.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to create these videos for those of us who are just starting out on this road and need good solid reviews (put in simple terms) as well as primers to understand the terminology.

Cheers

Bob.

July 31, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBob B

Authorised Mobius sellers are listed at... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25170905&postcount=2

July 31, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Love all of your reviews, they are great. You have almost sold this camera to me. What you failed to do was to show how it looked mounted on your helmet. I am unsure whether it needs to be upright or lying flat. You mention it looked a bit odd on your helmet as you had to place it on top. (Hope this is not already mentioned in others comments as I have not had a chance to read through all of them)

August 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTerry

Here's your answer (demonstrated with a different camera- but the results are the same).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvGcI7tRnM&feature=youtu.be&t=23m57s

August 2, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Wanted to report that after updating to the latest 2.10 firmware last night. The momentarily power lost issue that always happens during car ignition process (if pre-ignition is longer than 5 secs - diesel engine in the morning) seems to be fixed. No mention about this in the what's new/fixed list though.

August 6, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSaran

@Saran
Glad it works in your car. The startup routine has been modified, but not truly fixed. There will still be some cars where it won't work properly, but so far reports have been very positive.

August 6, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIsoprop

@Isoprop

Thanks for the update!

I forget to mention that I have been using a super capacitor for some time before applying this update. After testing with the internal battery this morning it works identically. No missed-recording since.

Speaking of the super capacitor. I found that the date will reset after two days of non use. I think it's one disadvantage of using super capacitor. I may change back to internal battery and not forget to take the camera away when parking under the sun.

August 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSaran

@Saran
With the camera turned off and without external power connected, a fully charged supercap should normally keep the internal clock running for about 10 days.
It's just an idea, but it's possible that if you leave the camera connected to your car's electrical system without power there could be voltage leakage thru the car's wiring. You can check for this by disconnecting your camera from all external circuitry, including the 12V converter.

August 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIsoprop

After reading all the issues on the 0803 I think I will take the plunge and get a Mobius. key to me is that it seems to be about a year old but going by the 27 pages of this thread, there seems to have been a lot of updates and development over that year.

Is there any central point that has all the relevant info re updates, set ups etc or is the best way to scroll through the 27 pages taking out what bits are relevant?

August 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

@Bobby

See http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25170908&postcount=3

August 8, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Cheers for that - one other question, any idea if the suction mounts that I have for a DR32 dashcam would fit the Mobius? I prefer the suction mount as the best part of my windscreen to mount this on has the black dots and I don't fancy putting the strong adhesive mount on the dots?

August 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

@Bobby

The DR32 mount should work ok. For mounting solutions, see http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/mobius-mounting-solutions.2654/

August 8, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

I chose the mobius on your recomendation and wanted to say thank you! A week in and i am very happy with it, Thanks again.

August 9, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJohn T

Looks like a great product,
two question though.

1: Can I buy one in Australia?
2: Is there a waterproof cover for it, or some way to water proof it for motorbike use in our normal wet weather?

August 9, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSpeedy

Not sure about your location, but yes the JooVuu waterproof case is also available , I have one, it is excellent ! You can also get a handlebar mount of ebay £3 here in the UK >

August 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

I've just had a look at some camera footage using the latest firmware I took last night when it was getting dark. It looks like I was driving through an electrical storm with all the flashes! The camera on WDR really seems to be struggling to keep up with the changing exposure values. I hope this gets resolved before too long.

August 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlan S

@Alan S

This flashing to which you refer is not being experienced by all ... http://youtu.be/Zkl_S8gi2sI

August 14, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

@russ331

Thanks. I had a look at the video. I'll reset the camera to 'low light' and see if it makes a difference and report back.

August 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlan S

Hi Folks,

I resubmit my request that I posted while ago because I am desperate finding a solution to my concern. Here is the original message:

I am requesting your help on my Mobius which has lost its sound as shown on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixUPBX38rk4&feature=youtu.be

I am using it as a DashCam and all of the sudden the camera has lost its audio capability since the last World Cup in Brazil.

Thanks in advance

Paul

August 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterPaul

I have been facing a problem ... My mobius cam is not being recognized in any of the com ports in my PC or anyother PC, when i turn on the cam all i get is a steady blue led and nothing else. when i turn it off and i connect it to the USB port a green led lights up and nothing happens. I also tried pressing the reset button but it just switches off and nothing happens :(
Can someone please help me ??
Please ?!!?

August 16, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterbrosan

@ Brosun. I'm using Win 7 64 bit with USB 3.0 ports.

I found the camera wasn't recognised.

Luckily I had a plug in USB media Hub which also had a USB 2.0 port.

As soon as I connected the Mobius through this, it was seen straight away.

So it maybe the issue is with Win 7 and / or USB 3.0 ports / drivers.

If you have a USB Hub with a 2.0 port available, I suggest you try this.

August 16, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

@ Al .... i have usb 2.0 ports in my PC .. it was working properly previously but now it all started going unresponsive no matter what i try !
I even tried to remove the battery and re connecting it !!
NO LUCK !!

Any other suggestions ??
Please help me !! :(

August 16, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterbrosan

@brosan

You'll get expert help if you post your problem at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904559&page=730

August 17, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

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