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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

Cheers - have ordered from Bangood so will see how good the service etc is now!

September 3, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

Well my Mobius has arrived three days after ordering it from Bangood. On the Bangood website I couldn't see where it said that the casing came as part of the package so had ordered one of these separately but it turns out it does come with the package. Never mind, it was only an extra couple of quid.
So tonight I will download the GUI and try and get it all set up as a dashcam although I am sitting here in my office looking at it thinking of another million uses that it could be put to!
Out of curiosity, is this better or worse than a typical mobile phone for video?

September 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

Well got my Mobius up and running and went a good drive on Saturday. When I got home and connected it up to my PC I discovered
a. It had decided to stop recording for some reason halfway through a leg of the journey and never restarted. Plenty of space left on card so no idea why this happened.
b. Wasn't too impressed with the brightness of the video - the detail was good etc and could recognise number plates when paused on VLC player but the overall image was very dull

I have had a play about with it and just cannot get ti to work today. It will power on manually but just will not power up when connected to the power cable from the car. Cable is working fine (charged another device to check) I have the setting on the GUI to allow auto start on either button or external power. Have played about with this setting and no matter what I do it doesn't make a difference.

At one point when I switched it on manually I was getting a flashing yellow the red light?

I have reconnected to GUI and reset all the settings and rechanged so will try again in morning when I am out in car to see if it is working.

Must admit when I had my DR32, at least you knew when it was on because the screen lit up for 10 seconds or so and then the red LED was very visible. I have obviously tried to hide my Mobius behind my rear view mirror as much as possible but the downside is you can't see very easily if it is charging!

September 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

Make sure you use a real brand sd card. Best would be a Kingston Class 4 card, since all the firmware will be tested upon this card since it's the sd card the manufacturer uses!

September 8, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermobius-cam.com

Its a class 10 card I am using - can't remember the make but is genuine enough - worked fine for 10 months in my DR32 dashcam.
Tried with a different cable last night - when the car powered up there was no sign of the camera coming on. However if you switched the camera on manually, when I switched the car power off the camera switched off with it. So its obviously picking up the signal somehow??

September 8, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

@Bobby

Sometimes it works in DR32 cam doesn't means it will works in Mobius cam, maybe try format again with SD Formatter v4.0 (exfat) with full erase.
I m using Sandisk Class 10 32gb without fail..otherwise you have to use different card to test...most likely all Class 10 card will work for v1.20 and v2.10 (latest)!

September 9, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBS Boon

Re your point about v2.10 - I am still on v1.20 as I read that the GUI wasn't compatible with 2.10 and there were some issues with it. Is this still the case or has everything been ironed out?

September 9, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

I am using a Sandisk Ultra 32GB, I am sure its a class 10 but when I am looking at it just now I can't actually see any markings on it to say that its a class 10. But it is exactly the same as this one
http://www.gizzmoheaven.com/SanDisk-32GB-Ultra-Micro-SDHC-Class-10-UHS-1-Memory-Card-and-SD-Adapter/s199898/c1876/Product.html

I drove down to collect my Son tonight and it has recorded the following
1 - 5 min clip
2 - 3 min clip which ends with me parking up
3 - 30 sec clip which was when I started engine up to move the car

And that is it - didn't touch it at all, didn't do anything with it, but it didn't record anything else on my journey back.

I really can't see how it has this intermittent fault, why will it record some but not it all?

September 9, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

@Bobby

I suggest that you format the card in the camera using the Windows GUI. Then disconnect all external power & use the internal battery to loop-record clips for 1 hour. If that's successful, the problem is probably with the external power supply. I suspect, however, that the problem is the memory card.

September 9, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Thanks for that advice - I tried that , reformatted the card via the GUI and switched it on and left it on a table pointing at a wall.
It recorded for 15 secs and then stopped with a solid yellow light.
When I moved my fingers in front of the lens it started recording again for 15 secs and then stopped.
Repeated this a few times and same thing happened each time.

Not sure if this helps in any way?

September 9, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

Ok with my last note there I may have solved one issue - I though Motion Detect was like on my DR32 so if it sensed a shock it automatically saved that file. But no, it would appear that this setting means that it automatically records when it senses motion. So I assume that also means that if it doesn't sense any motion it stops recording (at the predefined 15 sec interval)

I have now changed this setting to being off and see if that makes any difference.

September 9, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

You need a class 4 card for it, it does not like faster cards !! this has been covered a few times on this board !!

September 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

Russ / Chris thanks for your comments.
Overnight I fully charged the Mobius from a wall socket and today I have left it sitting on my desk recording.
It started at 08:50 and has recorded perfect 5 min sections until 10:11 when the battery died. Assume 1 hr 20 on the battery is about right (sound is on).

So on the face of it therefore does this mean the card is actually fine and I now need to look at more detail re the powering up cables etc that I have?

Re class 4 / class 10, I though the class 4 was definitely recommended for v 1.17 but the later firmwares were more sympathetic to class 10?

Is anyone running the latest 2.10 yet or is everyone holding back?

September 10, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

I am running the latest firmware, started with problems, but after doing a very deep format on my class 4 card, everything has been fine since ! You are correct re the time the battery lasts too !!

September 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

Chris what benefits / changes do you see with the new firmware?

September 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

Just the ability to now capture AVI files :-)

September 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris Coleman

I was interested in getting the mobius camera. I'm unsure of what microsd card to buy. I know it should be a class 10 but does it matter whether I would need a 32 or 16 gb card? It will be primarily a car camera.
Thanks
Mike

September 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMike

@ Mike Class 4 (FOUR) card.

You can have issues with a faster card.

Regarding the card size, it doesn't matter from the perspective that it has loop recording ie when it gets to the end of the card it starts recording over the beginning again.

However, from the prospect of preserving files, the larger the better. Personally, I'd buy the 32GB card.

Kingston Class 4 is the recommended card.

September 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAl

@Bobby
I don't know where you read that the GUI wasn't compatible with v2.10, but it's totally untrue, at least with regards to the Windows GUI (mSetup.exe). mSetup is compatible with ALL Mobius firmware versions and ALL the latest #16 (keychain) firmware versions. Firmware has never been released without the accompanying Windows GUI.

As has been posted many, many times, cards with a class 4 rating are recommended. Most class 10 will also work, but there will always be one or two that won't. This applies to ALL firmware versions. If a card doesn't work properly a full format using SDFormatter may bring it back to life.

September 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIsoprop

Isoprop, I saw it on the front page here http://www.mobiusgui.com/
My class 10 seems to be working just now once I worked out the issue re the power cable but if it acts up again then I will start off by buying a class 4.
But fingers crossed!!

September 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

Hi.

I just bought my mobius i've already tested and all seems o.k. But i don´t know why i can't change the settings in the msetup program. it tells me that vip=pid= device not supported.
Can anyone help me.
Thanks

September 18, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterPedro Guedes

I'm very happy to report that after having installed firmware v2.18 today ( low light setting) I am no longer plagued with flashing lights at night as I was before. Success!!

September 18, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlan S

Alan, tonight was the first time I noticed the flashing lights at night time and your comment appeared at right time.
I have updated both the GUI and the firmware so see if that makes a difference - you are going for low light setting instead of WDR set to On.
Did you try this on WDR with the new firmware or did you go straight to Low Light? Does it give the duplicate frames that the GUI suggests it might?

September 18, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

I've bought a Mobius Action cam which arrived today and I can't seem to be able to set it up as I want it.

I seem to have got most of the settings sorted out using the mSetup device but I can't figure out what to set for the recording side of things.

When the camera is fastened to the windscreen I want to be able to connect the power from the Motoehome lighter socket to the camera and it start recording straight away without having to press any buttons – is it possible to do that?

If it is then I can't seem to find the right setting on the mSetup to make it do that.

Reading the Mobius manual it says set 'Auto Power – On Record to 'ON'

But my menu doesn't give me that command.

It gives something similar ' Power On – Auto Record' but only the choice of 'Off' / Button Only / External Only / Both' – and not ON.

Have you any ideas of what I should be setting to allow recording as soon as power is switched on?

Any help appreciated.

September 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKeith

Keith, make that option "Both"

This means that it will automatically start recording when you either
a. switch on the power manually (if you have it on battery mode)
b. power it up by means of external power - so in this case when you switch the ignition on and your lighter socket becomes live, the Mobius will automatically switch itself on and start recording.

September 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBobby

Bobby - thanks for the advice – I have altered the option to 'both'

I still seem to have a problem because when I press the Power button the camera starts recording using its own battery but will not record straight away when I attach a power cable.

When I insert the cable a blue light comes on , goes off, a yellow light comes on, flashes a few times and goes off and then a green light comes on and remains on - but no automatic recording.

I obviously have something set incorrectly and any help solving it would be appreciated

September 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKeith

Please ignore that last post of mine.

It now seems to be working perfectly okay, I haven't a clue what I've done to get it going properly, but it is recording when power is connected.

Time for a coffee,

Keith

September 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKeith

If using a 32Gb card, and connected to the car lighter for power, in 1080p mode, how long would you be able to record for? and would this be done as a single file or multiple files of a particular size?

Thanks

Graeme

September 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGraeme

My 32GB Class 4 card has 28.9GB of space.

Each 5 minute clip takes up 553MB.

On that basis, in theory, you should get 4 hours and 35 minutes of recording on the Card before it runs out or starts again on a loop.

September 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKeith

I'm not sure if I did something wrong or if I received a faulty product. I just purchased the mobius and plugged it in with a correct usb charger and the cable that the camera came with. I waited enough time so that the camera was fully charged. when I removed the power the yellow light started to blink. Now the only thing that happens is the yellow light is blinking. None of the buttons seem to have any effect on the camera. I think I am going to let the camera run out of battery and then see if the buttons do not work after I charge it again. Have you experienced this problem? Have I dont something wrong?

Mike

September 24, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMike

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