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The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

@Corky... Wow, that's impressive actually.

July 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike W.

Thanks Techmoan, on the strength of this review I ordered 2 last night, one for myself and one for my brother. I want one to run as a dashcam for my bike or give to my mum for her car, and my brother has been worried about the possibility of being the victim of an insurance scam - the price of peace of mind is cheap compared to the potential anguish of being in a legal battle.

I also thought about the possibility of having two TF cards, one with a text file configuration so it makes the camera run as a helmet cam and another with a text file configuration so it makes the camera run as a dashcam. Can anyone who already has one of these Mobius cameras test the idea out and see if it works?

July 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

Haku, It doesn't work like that. Using the late 60s/early 70s Mission Impossible TV Series as an analogy......Once Jim Phelps (the Mobius camera) has received his mission instructions (the configuration settings) the tape (.txt file) self destructs (gets deleted from the SD card).

Just to clarify, the txt config file gets consumed by the camera during the update process. It also will only update the settings when you press the right button combination (hold the Mode button down then press and hold Power as well until the red light flashes ). You can't keep a .txt file on a card, because as soon as you have used it once...it's gone. Also bear in mind the Config .txt file contains the time and date, so if you create a .txt file on 1st June then update the camera with this in August, the camera will show 1 June.

July 16, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Techmoan, thanks for clarifying what happens when you give it the config text file.
I wonder if the manufacturer could be persuaded to add a new feature to allow this, ie an override.txt file which contains settings which override whatever the camera is currently set to, so we can have a dashcam card and a headcam card with appropriate override.txt files on.

July 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

I've been looking for a unobtrusive DV camera for "skydiving" for a long time. This might be it and I will get one to test out, with one deal breaker. I have a Mac computer (OS 10.5.8) and need to know how I can change the settings, update firmware etc. on a Mac. (I have no PC and I have no Android w/ OS4.0) Please someone let me know how to manipulate the camera on a Mac. Thanks for any help!

July 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterbody flyer

@BodyFlyer I only really use a Mac and its as simple as changing a txt file and saving it to the camera. It's all in the video and the excellent instructions on the links provided.

July 17, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Hi again, as always great work, we all thank you. One question I have, do you know if someone has tried to adapt one of these* to the #16 or any other like it?*http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AT6OE70/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A29EZVB447EKA7 to the #16 or any other like it?

The thing is, I play Airsoft and I have been using the #16 since it came out, and it's great for mounting on the gun facing me (for some really cool shots), my issue is that I want one that I can mount on the gun facing the bad guys, but I need a small FOV, as small as I can get, I've been using the ACT20 because of the narrow FOV (without the wide angle) so far It's been the best\only choice, but now that I got the GoPro Black (wear on the head) the quality of the ACT20 is really not keeping up with the rest, and now I just got the Mobius to replace the #16, so I would love to find a Mobius equivalent without a wide angle lens.
Can you advise anything, thanks so much.
Ricardo Fortuny
PS: If you want to see how I use the cameras check this video or my channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7BU7GHInDs

July 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRicardoFortuny

Got mine from minidvcameras.co.uk today. Couldn't be happier with the service I got from Chris @ Webbex. They are apparently the only UK verified supplier of the Mobius.

July 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHobnob

Can anyone recommend free or low cost editing software for the mov files that Mobius generates. I can only view them through itunes and the playback is jerky (probably my laptop). So far, very impressed with the unit as a car dvr in 1280p.
Also like the timelapse feature - could they add 120s (or user defined time) in the firmware? Also mSetup is a must have!

July 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterterry

@terry, for alternative player, or cutting or re-encoding MOVs, you should try VLC. http://www.videolan.org/ . I can play the samples without problems.

July 18, 2013 | Unregistered Commentervoltx

Just bought this from www.minidvcameras.co.uk, great service from friendly staff and delivered next day. I would highly recommend purchasing from these guys as you don't have to wait weeks for a HK seller. The camera is much smaller than I expected with a small windscreen mount so easy to hide.

July 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKevin Smith

I got the camera now and using two cards with two config files does work, just it requires the following steps:
- Put the syscfg.txt in both cards read only so the camera wont delete it when it loads the settings
- When you swap memory cards you need to do the load-settings thing (M+power key for a while), but it takes just a few seconds to do

The time/date wont stay correct this way as Techmoan mentioned but its not a problem for me as I keep the date overlay disabled anyway. It allows for pretty easy switching between dashcam use and action camera use, though it would be nice to be able to skip the second step (but it may be impossible to do). This is with firmware 0.35.

July 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHodgepodge

@voltx. Thanks for the tip re VLAN. Playback is very smooth and the video is amazingly clear. The VLAN movie creator is not currently available to download, so do you have any other suggestions? Can you get editing packages on PC sub £50? Btw any doubters on this camera - just buy it. Its the best car dvr I've owned -number plates of passing traffic at 30mph are clearly readable. I'm going to buy another for recording the back of the car - perhaps I can wire up the video feed as a reversing camera?? BTW it arrived from HK within 6 days!

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterterry

Is it just me or do the posts mentioning the "minidvcameras" seller look suspicious?

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterGareth

@terry I can't suggest any as I don't have experience with them. But you should try the one available from/for your OS first.

If you are using Windows, there's Windows Movie Maker; you can download it for free from Microsoft. If you are using Mac OS X, there's iMovie. Included with any Mac purchase (bundled as iLife).

If they are not enough for your needs, might try some from this list (from Freeware or Commercial list): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered Commentervoltx

For free Windows video editing, try Lightworks. Even the free version looks amazingly sophisticated.

(I'm another Mac users so have not used it - and iMovie is fine!)

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

@Gareth. Not sure what you mean by suspicious. I too ordered from Webbex and found Chris to be very helpful. He has updated the windscreen mount photo now since there is an official Mobius one rather than the off-brand one he had before.

Very glad I bought this little camera. It's so much better than the Winy V300HD (Livue LB100) I bought last month.

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTony

@Gareth. I don't know why Webbex look suspicious. I bought mine from them. Ordered 1.30 pm arrived 9.00 am next day. Postage was £4.00 Strangely when.I tried to order a spare mount at the same time, that put the postage up to £10.00 so I didn't bother. If you google Mobius camera you will find Webbex, they are based in Church Stretton in Shropshire. There is a contact phone number. on the site. As to the camera it's great. I used it on a cycling helmet mount for another camera on a rough track. The mount put the camera forward of my helmet & the camera bounces up & down a lot, however there is no jello. I have now moved the mount onto the top of the helmet, I think this will stop the bouncing motion. Battery life is just over 80 minutes.

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterSteve

Techmoan - GREAT review. Useful and accurate with a dab of humor. Really appreciated!
I use a great program called vmware fusion on my mac to run PC software. The mSetup config software works well with it

Just got my Mobius and have a few suggestions for the manufacturer (who seem to listen through you)
1) add a little loop for a string / leash, tether. Useful in action sports
2) add a feature to disable the back led independently from the top led
3) 720p should be the same view field as 1080p. That is appropriate for more hours on the flash card.
4) it would be nice to have lower number (10 or adjustable) of fps. Again - allows more hours on same flash card
5) make battery level indication available when connected to the computer
6) bluetooth connection for aiming with smart phone (I know this is hardware change, and non trivial)

Firmware: 0.35
1) the current firmware does not work as webcam. I wanted to do that to adjust aim
2) no motion detection yet.I can't wait for next update.

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDave

Dave, I had the webcam working as a live video stream on 0.35, albeit with Win XP professional at work.

I found the rear led only partially useful as it's on the wrong side for right-hand drivers.

July 19, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

Dave, 720p at 30 frames per second gives you the same field of view as the 1080p mode. Only 720p60 has the narrower FOV.

July 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMedd

Just bought the Mobius for a dash-cam. To make this as inconspicuous as possible to me I am making a custom mount to fix the cam behind the mirror. The risks I see are from the summer heat in the south-eastern USA (150 degrees F inside the car). So We'll see how well the mounting bracket holds (stuck w. 3-M "extreme" mounting tape) up as well as the camera with regard to the heat.

July 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDogburrito

Amazing review Matt, as they all are. I have followed your reviews for ages and having ordered from joovuu it is exactly as you describe "finally" they have put feedback to excellent use. The quality is amazing, in good light even quick movement close past the lens produces perfectly focussed sharp images if you freeze the video playback. Just love this camera, perfect for the car but a lot more too, almost a shame to only use it for that.

Anyone considering using in a car, check the angle of the windscreen and visualise how any suction mount would work. I found mine is at a very steep angle and a mount I bought has the camera a long way from the glass so you get reflections. I will look at this again and maybe make something up.

One feature request - I don't know how to contact the manufacturer but you appear to have their ear - would be during record to have a protect function. So, say, pressing the "M" button would make the filename PROTECT_0001.MOV and when the camera deletes the old recordings it would ignore these. In that way if you see something you want to keep you can rest assured it will still be there and very easy to find even many days later after the rest had been over-written.

Just love this camera. Many thanks for bringing it to our attention. Having showed people at work three of them have ordered too.

July 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterslimgym

slimgym, pressing the 'M' mode button during video recording marks that file as read-only, and is not overwritten during loop record mode. See p4 of the manual.

Also take a look at the adhesive windscreen mount which has a lower profile than the suction cup version, so would bring your camera closer to the screen.

July 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

Ahh fantasitc! I scanned the PDF manual before posting and didn't see that, plus it appeared to me pressing M while recording didn't seem to do anything. So it already does it. Even better :) I shall look at the other mounts. Many thanks for your prompt and helpful reply!!

July 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterslimgym

Hi
Can you please tell me how I can update mobius camera using a mac.
Is there any other software available for the mac

July 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJohn

hello john, page 7 "manual firmware update".
http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/MobiusManual.pdf

Regards

john

July 21, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohn (the other John)

@Gareth
I know what you are saying, sounds like there is a bit of self advertising going on here.

July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterEvilution

@ Evilution. I'm suspicious when someone chips in about how good some shop that has never been heard of before is mentioned. They might be fine and all that but I'd rather buy from Techmoan's links. That way I hope he will get a few pence from each click to help him!

July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

In response to the last few comments, I make it a policy never to post on forums like RC Groups, FPV Hub and this one (until now!) as it can easily be construed as spam or self promotion. The earlier comments were not posted by me as I'd rather let the word be spread by satisfied customers.

I have sold over 200 Mobius ActionCams so far and the only authorised re-seller in the UK, so if Matt chooses to add me to his links, then great, but I respect his decision either way.

Thanks
Chris

July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterWebbex

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