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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

US   UK   NL   DE   AU   AT   CH   IE   ES   FR   NL   BE 

I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

Well, I ordered mine from Eletoponlin365 last Monday (@3:35 15th July) and it has arrived under 7 days later as it came in this mornings (22nd July) post @10:30! :-)

They are pretty switched on as I ordered the helmet mount separately a few moments later (3:38pm) and that came in the same package (saving them postage and ensuring it all turns up at the same time!).

Looks great. I've stuck the camera on charge.

July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

I meant to add that I have the 'TV Out Cable' included, that I did not expect as part of the package!

July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

Got my Mobiouses (Mobiuii?) today! Swift postage from China-UK, just 6 days. Didn't realise how small they are - I can actually put one inside a tic-tac box, the oversize box that is :)
Thinking perhaps I should have ordered a video cable but given the details on the rcgroups.com site I can hack up a spare USB cable to make my own easily. As for an external screen to check the camera is mounted in the right position, I'll make up a lead that can connect it to my old Casio EV-660 pocket TV which has composite video in.
Very pleased I can simply drop the TF card into my Nook Tablet and that will play the .MOV files with its default video viewer without fuss.
I do like the idea of having 2 in a car, one out the front and one out the back, with the back one hooked into a small LCD screen with image mirror capability to aid in parking.

July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

I'd like to echo the commenter: Hobnob. I too got one from minidvcameras.co.uk, it arrived the next day and Chris @ Webbex could not have been more helpful. Also the review was tremendous and covered the camera extremely well. If anyone is interested, we are using it for cricket coaching as its unobtrusive enough to go between the stumps and cheap enough not to matter if it gets clonked. Excellent all round

July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterR Morton

Got my Mobiuses (Mobiuii?) today, nice quick 6 day delivery from the Eletoponline Shop eBay link, some quick tests and I'm really pleased with how good the footage looks during daytime but not so much during night time.
I was hoping it would be good enough to record footage whilst cycling at night, my bike has a custom lighting setup I built which has 360x 3mm white LEDs with a microcontroller and buttons to control the brightness so I don't run around with all 360 on and dazzle everyone. I usually ride around with 60 LEDs on and that's sufficient to be seen and see where I'm going but not bright enough for the camera to pick up, I have to run with 120 or more even along streetlight lit roads. Oh well, hopefully future generations will have lower LUX level sensitivity.
I should have bought the video out cable but I can make one using the wiring diagram on the RCGroups forum, and I can use my old Casio EV-660 pocket TV with AV in as a video monitor for aligning the camera.
I like the idea of using a 2nd Mobius out the back window running as a recording rear-view camera, perfectly achievable to do by using an LCD screen that can mirror the image for helping with reversing, though you'll likely need a custom cable or two to achieve that.
Lastly the camera is actually small enough to fit inside a tic-tac box, one of those new big boxed ones that is :)

July 23, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

Also forgot to mention that I really like that I can take the memory card straight from the camera and put it into my Nook Tablet which will play the MOV files perfectly smoothly using its default video viewer.

July 23, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

@ Haku 120 led,s..... when you ride down the street people must think christmas has arrived early....just joshing...no offence.... at least if someone knocks you off of your bike they wont have the excuse that they didnt see you........keep safe when your out and about.....regards Ipol

July 23, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterIpol

What are people's views on the WDR (wide dynamic range) option? I felt the colours were oversaturated with WDR on, but for dashcam use perhaps detail & exposure are more important than accurate colour. I've not tested the camera at night yet to see what difference WDR makes.

July 23, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

The Mobius is now part of my car with a semi-permanent windshield mount I made from aluminum and bits of hardware. I'll hide away the power wire once I prove that the hot North Carolina heat hasn't killed it whilst sitting in the sun on 100 degree F days. Removing the unit after every drive is not an option so we'll just have to see how the batter holds up since it is the weakest link in the unit.

Testing is nearly perfect with a minor exception: I'd like the recording to continue for a full 2 minutes after power is turned off. I have attempted this using both 1 and 2 minute settings in the GUI but both settings result in only a 20 second additional recording after power off. Yes the battery is well charged and working ........any similar experiences & solutions?

July 23, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDogBurritoahoo.com

Hi,

Is anyone else having difficulty downloading sample clips from dump truck,Even after an hour the page is still not loaded.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Willie

July 24, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterwillie

Hi DogBurritoahoo.com
I'm still waiting for Mr postman to bring my camera. but I've downloaded the Mobius GUI to have a look at the program. I think you can't select how long the camera stays on for after the power is removed when in car DVR mode "Auto power on Record". the "auto shut off" selection is for how long the camera stay in standby mode (i.e not recording video or taking pictures) before shutting down.
But that would be a nice feature for a future firmware update to chose how long the camera carry's on records for after the power is removed from the USB .
John

July 24, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohn (the other John)

hello Willie, i just tried but i cant download the sample clips also.

John

July 24, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohn (the other John)

@Willie, I had no trouble downloading the sample clips, but I know DumpTruck can be tempremental sometimes as I have a 30gb account there and uploading large files often stalls out. I hope Techmoan doesn't mind but I put a copy of all his clips on my website on a single page which only has links back to this page and the clips, I can easily remove it if Techmoan doesn't like it, but for now:
http://www.haku.co.uk/video/Mobius/

@Ipol, cycling at night with all the LEDs lit is like going around with a patch of my own personal daylight :) It's not as bright as some of the Cree type high power lights but it's permanently attached to the bike and doesn't have a spotlight effect as the 3mm LEDs produce a much smoother beamspread, plus it only draws 10 watts at full brightness from the ebike battery.


P.S. I've tried posting this a few times today on 2 different machines running different versions of FF and nothing has appeared, this time I'm trying with IE instead of FF

July 24, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

Haku, I have no problem with you hosting the clips...watch out you don't exceed your bandwidth allowances though.

Your comments all got caught in the automated squarespace spam filter. A constant source of frustration for me, because (as far as I can discern) there is no way to be notified when there is anything stuck in there. I have to check it manually whenever I get the chance.

July 24, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Techmoan, thanks for letting me host a copy, this is a great camera and hopefully the more people who buy them the more investment will be put into firmware and future (even better) versions. My web hosting package is as far as I'm aware an unlimited bandwidth one, strangely in the control panel it's saying 0.00% of 5GB used and 0MB bandwidth used... I won't bring it up with the provider in case they "fix" it ;)

July 24, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

@ Haku,

Thank you so much for taking the time to do that for me,very kind.
Wow !! Cant believe the difference in the raw clips to the you tube ones.

Thanks again

Willie

July 25, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterwillie

Taken from the RC groups forum, important!

"I've been advised by the developer to alert those using external USB power supply to check the specs of their power supply/USB charger. Recent user premature battery failure experience and testing by the developer have suggested that the external power supply may be part of the problem.

If the power supply cannot maintain the voltage under load sufficiently high, the camera's internal charging circuit may not be fully capable of keeping the internal battery charged to full capacity as the camera operates. The battery can then go through many small charge/discharge cycles during recording, which ages the battery and can lead to premature failure.

To avoid this situation, it is recommended that your external USB power has at least a 1000 mA rating and an output voltage between 5.0 and 5.5V! Also, a short, high quality charging cable should be used to keep the voltage drop from the charger to the camera to a minimum.

Those using the camera as a car recorder are at the highest risk due to the long extended recording periods (not to mention possible excessive temperatures which also take a toll on lipo battery life). The dedicated car charger and cable for the Mobius meet these specs, but other third-party car chargers may not."

July 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike

Thanks for the warning. I'm trying to read the RC forum but I'm only up to page 30 of 82!

Just checked the spec of my TomTom multi charger and it offers 1200mA so I should be ok.

July 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

Using a regulated 5v source wired through my high end multimeter I did a few tests, I tried to get the numbers as accurate as possible. The voltages aren't exactly 5v because it drops slightly under load, hence the recommendation of a source up to 5.5v.

Internal battery unplugged, recording 1080p = average 305mA @ 4.97v (1.51watts)
Internal battery connected and being charged from a flat status, camera off = average 186mA @ 4.97v (0.92watts)
Internal battery connected and being charged from a flat status, recording 1080p = average 505mA @ 4.95v (2.5watts)

I second the recommendation about getting a higher ampage than needed USB adapter for running the camera as more amps won't do any damage, the camera will only take what it needs.

Have to say I think it's rather amazing you can record full HD footage using only around 1.5 watts!

July 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

Hi Bought cam after watching review, and it is brilliant. Just wish I was ready about how hot the heat sinks get, made me panic and unplug it straight away when i connected it in the car straight out of the box.. Felt better when when I plugged into PC and altered settings, thought I had killed it ! For those who have a problem with the clips off Dumptruck, seems some IE versions have probs, try Chrome browser, seems fine.... Awaiting next reviews, excellent site, and I live in Manchester, so know all the places in vids....

July 29, 2013 | Unregistered Commentersupermarine

well said Ipol there is always one, keep up the good work you do.

July 30, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMr Rinkly

@ Mr Rinkly.... thanks for the words of encouragement of course its Techmoans site but I like many others do not wish to see him attacked in the manner that MAN adopted......thankfully Techmoan deleted the most offensive comments.I am sure Techmoan is big enough and (####) enough to look after himself ....(Matt you should be used to my sense of humour by now) Regards to all from one who appreciates the advise and knowledge that this site continues to share with the rest of us ......The french connection...Ipol...

July 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterIpol

After more than a week using the camera as car camera, I'll write my feedback here in hope would be seen by the developer.

My general feedback is that the camera lives up to my expectations. I like its small and solid form.

I live in a tropical country where the air temperature at midday goes around 34° - 36° C. The camera is (still) doing fine although the heat sinks are scarily hot. I'm thinking about adding extensions to the built-in heat sinks.

Minuses:
1. The auto-white-balance transition is too jumpy.
2. Sometimes the saturation goes off.
3. WDR is good for night, but on daytime, it makes the video less contrast/saturation. Auto-WDR feature would be nice.

The 120° fisheye lens is okay. Although I miss the 140° non-fisheye lens on my old car camera. Would be great if they can make 140° fisheye/non-fisheye lens as a module.

August 1, 2013 | Unregistered Commentervoltx

@voltx

Im also using as a car cam, would love to hear if you succeed in the extra cooling. I just turn the aircon on full blast on the windscreen.

As you may have guessed, I use mine as a car cam also. Already on my second unit as my first stopped working less than a week into use.

The manufacturer may argue that as this is an action cam and not made specifically as a car cam (see the DR32), then they wont tailor it to a specific use like that.

August 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike N

@voltx

Thanks for the report. My Mobius has withstood North Carolina heat for 2 weeks so far. The mfg may have designed this with some car cam specs in mind but does any company make a unit that can withstand the environmental stress of a permenant windshield mounting? I have measured 140 degree (F) temps in my car on hot days...


When your Mobius failed, were you able to get a warranty replacement?

August 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDogBurritoahoo.com

@DogBurritoahoo.com

Sorry to jump in before voltx. You are definitely are a test case for its performance.

Im in the UK. I have used a prestigio car camera and still use the 300 model as a rear view camera (720P)

Ive have left it in a car cooking away at a max car temp of 47 degrees C for over a month now and the manufacturer says it will withstand 60C. I know compared to North Carolina heat, thats a bit different (and not if Fahrenheit, sorry), but our humidity has been pretty high and is a good test for any device.

August 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike N

I got round to making my own video out cable for the Mobius, it's basically a mini-USB B power passthrough cable with a 2nd cable that has a stereo headphone plug for AV which can plug it straight into my Casio pocket tv, or use adaptors for phono connections.

In the configuration software I thought the 16:9 aspect ratio meant an anamorphic output for displaying on a 16:9 screen but it actually produces a letterbox 4:3 output, and the 4:3 setting produces an anamorphic 16:9 output. (confused smiley goes here)


I did a few further power consumption tests now I have a video out cable:

Internal battery unplugged, recording 1080p, outputting composite video = 330mA @ 4.96v (1.64 watts)
Internal battery unplugged, not recording, outputting composite video = 265mA @ 4.97v (1.32 watts)
Internal batter connected and being charged from a flat status, recording 1080p, outputting composite video = 550mA @ 4.93v (2.71 watts)

Also out of curiosity I turned the camera on without a battery connected, not recording and not outputting composite video, just sitting there waiting for buttons to be pressed it was using 265mA @ 4.97v (1.13 watts)


Aside from doing power tests I got some nice HD footage of the wild magpies that feed from my windowsill :)

August 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

Will the Mobius run with internal battery disconnected/ removed?

Since the battery is the weak point, I'd consider removing it rather than risking it to the environmental stress of hot and cold

August 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDogBurritoahoo.com

@DogBurritoahoo.com, yes the camera works perfectly fine running off USB power without the internal battery, however the clock loses its time and gets reset to 00:00 on the 1st of Jan every time it powers up.

August 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

Sorry jumped the gun there, you really do need the battery when used as a dashcam. I just tested unplugging the USB power when it's recording video without the internal battery - it loses the file it's currently recording as the camera couldn't close the file properly. Not what you want if you have an accident and the ignition gets turned off.

August 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterHaku

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