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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

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I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

It's still working for me here on my iPad. I'd suggest trying a different browser.

August 27, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

it's ok for the instruction file....but not the gui software....Firefox is unable to load it and chrome told me the page is unjoignable since the 19 st august...perhaps it will be easier with the sj 1000.... :))

August 27, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterlolo33

http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/index.html

Works fine for me on windows 7 using firefox and ie

August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike N

yes now it works fine....with an update of the sofware in version 1.0.2.10

August 27, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterlolo33

I have added a heatsink to the existing heat sink lik this: (did not actually buy these but i had some laying around from former computer projects)

http://dx.com/p/ave-x3-aluminum-alloy-ram-heat-sinks-golden-8-pcs-204057

Because the existing heat sink is slightly higher then the plastic the heat is transferred perfectly. This keeps my camera much cooler during carcam use.

August 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJurian

Hi, do you happen to know if it works with 64GB micro sd cards?

Great review btw!

September 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRami

Yes I'm using a 64gb micro SD XC card in mine.

September 2, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAdrian

Thx Adrian!

September 3, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRami

You may need a smaller capacity card to perform the firmware updates as I understand that process requires a FAT32 card.

September 3, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

I just trued updating my firmware with the 64 gb XC card with no luck then put my 16 gb sdhc card and it updated with no problems.

September 3, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAdrian

@ Jurian: How do you attach the heatsink in your link to the the heatsink on the Mobius? Thank you for sharing your idea with us.

September 6, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

I got a message from a chap using the camera in 100° heat for weeks, leaving it in the car all day and doing long journeys in it. It hasn't overheated on him. The camera is fine at regulating its own heat without any need for modification.

September 6, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

@ Techmoan: That is great news.

September 6, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

I ordered a Mobius several weeks ago from a local distributor. It arrived safely, and I have to tell you, it is a damned nice unit for the price ... in fact, for any price in this category of dash cams. Easy to set up, install, and review following a few trial runs to determine whether I've mounted it facing properly. The results were crystal clear, which shouldn't have surprised me after viewing your YouTube video clip. I'm not concerned about its lack of a waterproof case, as it will only reside in my car for its natural lifetime. Your review was what clinched it for me, and I humbly thank you for your thorough and sometimes humorous reports on all of your clips. My best regards .... Will

September 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterWill

FEATURE REQUEST: MUST BE ABLE TO BEEP POWERUP /powerdown for use as a car dash cam, like parking sensors etc, all important systems must give driver an indication they are working,

the dash cam cant be assumed it will be mounted right in front of the driver. Apart from this, it an ideal dash cam , bravo to the designers and a big thank you to techmoan

September 9, 2013 | Unregistered Commenters

How long does the fully charged battery last while recording in various modes?
The 808 #16 lasts me for about 40 minutes. Does Möbius offer any improvement?
Thanks.

September 10, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteraturk

aturk - I left mine running to see and I got @90 minutes before it stopped recording.

September 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

I get 70-90min video, and 90-120min time lapse photos on a full charge.

September 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

Dear friends, I've been following every comment so far but I am sorry if this question has already been answered or perhaps there is new information you might have to share: Has anyone found or devised a way to add a circular polarizing filter to the Mobius? I think this could be tremendously impactful in reducing glare from scenery as well as from the windshield. This polarizing filter could also function as a protective lens. Looking forward to your responses.

September 10, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

DASHCAMTALK SUMMARY: http://dashcamtalk.com/dash-cam-comparison/
Discreet, small, GPS and reasonably priced. Video quality is the biggest drawback. WTF?
I musty admit I would like to see a 30 days later review by the amazing Matt.
I know thats a tricky thing to ask, but we all like the products for a week, its after the first week that we notice the flaws.
PS who thinks we should petition to get Matt a spot on the Gadget show? Still in this format, dont mess with the best.

September 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAda

Those are dashcamtalk comments for the Mini 0801 camera!

These are the Mobius comments: "The best discreet camera for $85. Great video quality, size and support."

September 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

@ TonyM

Yeah, place comment in wrong section. D'oh!

Was stating that it appears the Mobi is in fact better pic quality, just discretion is maybe a bit lower for the 0801

September 10, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAda

Perfect unit but it has still much room for improvement.

PRO:
- Tiny size
- no GPS (you do NOT want GPS as it can only be used against you but never in favor of you)
- changeable lens
- almost the perfect unit

CON:
The microphone can only be switched on or off with a PC. You need a physical on/off switch. You do not want to record yourself all the time but when pulled over or discussing an accident when you got hit you want to be able to flick it on in an instant.

There is a battery but no ability to record after the vehicle is turned off. You want about 10-30 minutes of recording after leaving the vehicle. Being robbed happens after you leave the car and are asked a question. What is the use of the battery?

Only 7 hours of recording in normal HD quality on a 64 GB card.

The recording indicator leds at the bottom and the rear can only be switched on or off simultaneously. They should be separately switchable on or off in the software. (A small sticker on one of them helps also)

September 12, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterbuyer

That's not quite true. The battery will power the camera for about 70min all by itself after you remove it from the car. The usb input keeps the battery topped up whilst recording.

And what's wrong with "only" 7 hours of recording? If you're using it as a dashcam to record an incident I very much doubt you will need more than the last 30min.

September 12, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

@TonyM Due to your lack of experience with the subject I will clarify the issues.
Recording several minutes after leaving the vehicle: It is impossible to disconnect the front and back camera and put it in video mode before every exit of the vehicle to have it record several minutes after exiting. And then reconnecting them before driving off. The purpose of a dash cam is it records autonomously.

Recording time: After an incident I still might have to do a whole day of driving. When you really need proof is in situations where you get wrongfully accused, which often happens days after. Can be a later mix-up of vehicles on-site, completely false claims because nothing happened or you simply were somewhere else at the time. To prove your innocence in those cases it should hold a week of footage of all your driving = ideally 40 hours of quality footage. The whole purpose is to avoid being wrongfully accused without camera footage to be able to prove the opposite.

September 14, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterbuyer

buyer, I the case of a mix-up of vehicles - I don't think any number of 'hours of quality footage' would 'prove' anything to a court that you were doing anything as it could easily have been recoded in another vehicle.

The camera clearly works for the purpose that it was designed and the vast majority of normal people would what it for. I think you are looking for nits to pick.

September 14, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

@Voyager03
It works. Believe me or not but it is a fact.

It is nice how you handle my comments. Shooting the messenger does not make things disappear. My comments can make this the best equipment out there. You should be grateful for it instead of looking for nits.

September 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterbuyer

@ buyer What are you going on about? What 'works'?

If you can't make your point clearly you have no chance of making 'this the best equipment out there' (whatever 'the best' is supposed to mean)

September 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

Thanks for clarifying your statement, I did misunderstand your point about the battery. Yes, it would be nice to adjust the delay to record for longer after removing the usb input. I am aware that a motion detection option is also being considered - no idea if this would operate on battery only or require a permanent power supply.

The purpose of the battery is to power the camera whilst recording on-board video on a model aeroplane.

September 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTonyM

I was wondering if you were considering testing the Mobius with the new wide angle lens?

September 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRami

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