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Monday
Jul082013

The Mobius Camera - The do-it-all mount-anywhere 1080p Micro Cam

Here's my review of the Mobius Camera. This camera has been in development for some time and clearly the manufacturer has listened to user feedback from the buyers of the #16 808 cameras and incorporated many of their requested features into this model.

There isn't too much to add here - this is a pretty comprehensive video that covers most features of the camera. I suppose the only thing I didn't go into was the webcam function. I'm not interested in this myself since all my laptops have had a built in webcam since 2009, but a webcam function can come in useful if you need to refocus the lens and view live video on your PC screen at the same time. As I mentioned at the beginning of the video the manufacturer included a tool to enable you to refocus the (unglued) lens. I know of people who use the keyring cameras mounted on their model trains who will find this very useful.

I also never tried the time-lapse function, which automatically takes photos at your specified interval. You can see these options on screen during the configuration section of the review.

The only negatives I can think of are the narrow FOV in the 720p60 mode (720p30 has the same FOV as 1080p30) and a lack of water resistance, although there may well be accessories released in the future that address the latter issue.

Due to the constant revisions the manufacturer makes to the camera, the features I have shown here could be updated in the future, but even if there are no more changes, I'm very happy wth the camera as it stands today. It never gave me a moment of trouble during the weeks I was testing it. Never once locking up or shutting down on it's own, so for me this has been a totally reliable little camera.

I'm trying to guess what crazy questions I'll get asked, so I can answer them first.

So...

Motion detection? - Latest Firmware has this option (Info added Jan 2014)

Looped/Recycled Video? YES

Can this be switched off? YES

What is looped/recycled video? - See My Beginners Guide To Car Cams Video HERE

Can the Timestamp be turned off? YES

Finally to answer a common question from people who didn't watch the video. - No the silver arrows on the camera are not buttons, they are a heat sink and being aluminium are also not magnetic. Press Play on the video to learn more.

If you have any more questions, you should get all the answers you need from the links below.

To BUY ONE (on ebay) Click your country below

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I've also put some Amazon links below.

 

 

The Windows Configuration Software and Manual can be downloaded by CLICKING HERE

To Download SAMPLE CLIPS - CLICK HERE

(Wait a few seconds for the samples link to load)

Chuck Lohr's detailed Mobius Page is here

RC Groups.com Forum pages about the Mobius are here

The Downloadable Instructions and configuration software are available from here

I know people are going to ask me whether they should get this or an SJ1000, but they are very different cameras. You'll need to decide yourself what features are important to you. The LCD Screen, Waterproof Case, Ultra Wide angle lens of the SJ1000 or the true 720p60, reduced-fisheye lens and easy mounting options of the Mobius.

DIMENSIONS - Just thought I should add this info.

The Mobius is 6cm front to back, 3.5cm wide and 1.7cm thick.

 

 

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Reader Comments (918)

Dear Mr Producer,
thank you for making this little gem of a cam available to us.
I held back of ordering one as I waited for the motion activation
feature to be implemented in an firmware update.

But now I can no longer hold back, regardless of the missing feature.
I do hope though you haven't forgotten and find the time to write the
couple of lines of code. Soon.

October 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterFrank

I don't think there is such a thing has only a couple lines of code. the developer has been releasing many firmware updates to solve the bugs on the features the camera already has/had. I think it they want to prefect the features they already have before they add more.. it wouldn't be a nice camera if had lots of features plus the bugs.

developer, keep up the good work.

October 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

A couple of lines of code?
If you can write motion detect in only a couple of lines you must either be a genius or haven't a clue what you are talking about.
1. Motion detection influences how other functions operate. Some parameters can't be combined with Motion detect.
2. The config file needs to be modified and parsed and saved properly.
3. The USB parameter passing needs to be adapted.
There are more points that need to be considered, the three I have listed are the most important. Especially #1 requires a LOT of work and testing.

Sorry, I couldn't resist replying to Frank's post. Why is it that people think it's so simple to implement additional functionality?

October 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterIsoprop

Mobius is great device. :)
Windows GUI for setting camera parameters is very good and intuitive. All updates perform very nice with no any unanswered questions. Control buttons on the camera allows you to know, without a doubt, mode in which camera work. That was problem with earlier versions #11 & #16.
Sound recording is considerably better than on the older models...actually great...WOW! :)
Here is some my sample videos on YouTube, btw. Mobius is great device. :)
You can also dload original files (links in description) and compare with YouTube version which is always lower quality than original.
http://youtu.be/sz-6PwvuD_A
http://youtu.be/eqVMxZ9R3g4
p.s.
These program is recomended for formating SDcard...i always use him.
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/

October 18, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterfire2hr

Hello Techmoan, my friends and I have been using the Mobius cams for several months now and we came across some drawbacks, which we’d be happy to find fixed in the next firmware versions or at least in subsequent devices. Here are those along with our suggestions to eliminate them:
1. In video file properties the time of data recording session OPENING should be specified. All other video files created automatically in case of a long recording session should also have their corresponding time of creation (the beginning of each recording session and not its end), as now the video file creation time is wrong.
2. To introduce an option that would make it possible to disable the artificial picture sharpness enhancement technology – the so-called ‘noise mask sharpening’ (not to be mixed up with the ‘unsharp mask’!), as it not only wouldn’t improve the picture, but spoils it instead: there's that “stirring” in 1080p mode as well as noticeable artifacts in 720p.
3. To use the ‘downscaling’ technology to make the frame formation in 1280x720 30p mode – exactly the way it’s used for 1920x1080 30p mode. It means to take 2x or even 3x size of a final frame - i.e. the input frame to be fed to encoder - 2560x1440 pixels from CMOX matrix to get a 1280x720 pixels frame as an output one, downscaled. The reason – low picture quality in 720p compared to 1080p.
4. To add a programmable timer that would make it possible to start video recording at certain time points according to the timetable – day of the week/hour/minute with the possibility of being preprogrammed via SD-card. This would enable it to use the camera as an automatic security one (and not just as an action cam or a car DVR). And yes, the motion detecting option could be useful for this same purpose.
That is for the moment. Would you forward our suggestions to the cam producer, please? We hope that all these would help to improve the device functionality and its characteristics.
Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Jinnee

October 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJinnee

hello
who is the manufacturer of this mobius camera ?
i wand to import them to my country any link please?

thanks

albert

October 20, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteralbert

Luv the time sync--Just typing to see comments coming!

October 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKurt John

Really very very good reviews. Highly appreciative of the time and effort this requires.

October 24, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris

Dear Techmoan,

I want to have two different car DVR cameras in my car. If one has a screen and the other doesn't, in order to view the footage from the screenless camera, am I able to just transfer the SD to the camera with the screen? (Assuming they view in similar format)

Thank you.

Lukas

October 25, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterLukas

It's very hit and miss. Even if both cameras record in h.264 .mp4 you might find that the camera with a screen won't play the clips from the other camera if they are in a folder that's got a different name to the standard one.

October 25, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

After using the Mobius for months, there are 2 key points to mention.

the hot souteastern US sun has not killed the Mobius but the batterY has not well withstood the environmental stress of temperature cycling of 130 F days and 80 degree F nights. I installed the Mobius on the windshield in July. It is late October and the battery still works but holds less than 50% charge (it runs about 30 minutes on full charge).

The battery is critical since when power is turned off the Mobius needs 30 seconds to complete it's power down cycle ESPECIALLY TO CLOSE AND SAVE THE CURRENT RECORDING. Otherwise upon an accident one must remember to press the "save" button to avoid losing the accident footage (or run the car another 5 minutes) - not likely after an accident.

As long as the battery holds enough charge to run the mobius several minutes there will probably be no problem but I don't expect the battery to last longer than a year.

Replacement battery? Where to find?

October 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJohn

@john

The latest Firmware offers an 'immediate' power-off disconnect function. Intended for use with the upcoming capacitor model, it works fine with the battery, & saves the current file.

Regarding a replacement battery, as you're in the US, try US reseller spytecinc. If they can't help, then eletoponline365 or joovuu can.

October 26, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

What will the reset button reset?

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDan

resets it.....
it for when the camera locks up and the buttions become inresponsive etc, you can reset it with this buttion,

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjohngr

Mobius now being sold in the UK on Amazon too...

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTerry

@Terry

The Amazon reseller is Pakatak. Never heard of them &, as far as I know, they're not a Mobius-approved reseller.

A genuinely approved UK reseller is JooVuu. They're also cheaper than Amazon.

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

thanks for the info russ331, I'd never heard of JooVuu either so thought going through Amazon might be a safe option, might just buy from eletoponline on ebay anyway - or at least ask them for a list of genuine UK sellers or something.

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTerry

Nothing wrong with Eletoponline Terry. They send stuff pretty quickly to the UK and are easy to deal with.

Chances are any Mobius on Amazon UK will be shipped from China anyway (Click Techmoans link and he might get a tiny commission too!)

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

OK, thanks Voyager03. Wasn't sure about buying from China in case of any faults and having to send it back out there etc but will just go for it anyway I think!

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTerry

Eletoponline365 are an official Mobius seller. A good choice for price, however there are drawbacks. Your package may be stopped by HMRC, in which case you'll be charged VAT plus £14 ParcelForce delivery charges. Your Warranty will be 90 days (I think). If a fault arises, you'll have to post it back to China at your expense. Plus possible repair & return charges. Could be a couple of months before you get it back, assuming it doesn't get lost in transit.

For these reasons, I bought mine from JooVuu. Delivered within 2 days. No surprise additional charges. Quick & easy to return it if a fault arises. Plus the reassurance of UK Consumer Protection Laws.

Your cash, your choice,

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

I have had great experience with eletoponline. I ordered my 808#16 from them and he shipped it the same day (within an hour). It arrived way before anticipated time - in 7 days to USA, instead of the estimated time. I have just ordered the Mobius from them on Oct 28. Will let you know how many days it takes.

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteraturk

Yep, I've bought several things from them can't remember waiting more than a week for anything to the UK. Never been a problem with stuff I've been sent either. They are good folk at eletoponline as far as I am concerned.

November 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

How will we know we're getting latest capacitor model? Should we wait for capacitor model or go ahead and purchase battery model?

Also the one in your review is not the new 120 degree camera correct?

November 3, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterdv8ed

There's nothing new in my video. Anything that came out after I made it isn't shown ;-) As far as I know the capacitor model has been hinted at, but not yet demonstrated or sold.

November 3, 2013 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Thanks man.
Manufactures should pay you to review their stuff.

November 6, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteriquix

Any ideas on the best file format is for recording videos from the Mobius and playing back on a TV?

Should AVI be fine?

Thanks for any help.

November 13, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTerry

@ Terry

Those AVI TV cables you can buy w/ this camera give terrible quality playback on the TV. I move the memory card to my SJ1000 to play on the TV in 1080 quality via mini HDMI adapter.

November 13, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKurt John

I ordered the Mobius from eletoponline on Oct 28. It arrived in the US on Nov 11.
Interestingly, they packed in an extra "TV Out Cable for Mobius ActionCam Sports Camera" ($4.60 on eBay from the same seller) with a note saying "A Gift for you!", a nice touch. Thanks eletoplonline.

November 14, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteraturk

aturk - back in July I was sent a gratis TV out cable with mine too - although I did order a helmet mount along with the camera.

I've been very happy with all the dealings I've had Eletoponline in the past too. Even when there was a problem, they were quick to respond and have been happy to help.

The only annoyance I have had with the camera has been my own fault. I have lost the lens cap, so have to be more careful with it!

November 14, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

What shareware program (or payware) program would you recommend to convert files from the Mobius camera to anything usable. When I convert, 1080p files they become disgustingly distorted. I have tried lots of converter programs. Thanks for any suggestions.

November 14, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterWilliam Kelley

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