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Saturday
Aug312013

The Mini 0801 - Tiny 1080p GPS Car Camera with an LCD Screen

UPDATE 2014 - be sure to look at the New Improved 0803 Model HERE.

I finally have an answer for the people who ask me which Dashcam I use…. it's this one.

Up until this point whenever I finished reviewing a car camera, I removed it from my car and boxed it up again. This is the first camera that's earned a permanant place on my windscreen.

There are a couple of reasons for this - firstly one thing that shouldn't be underestimated is the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor). I may be perfectly happy to live with a big piece of electronics hanging from the windscreen - but it's not completely down to me. The truth is though that I'm just as unhappy with anything messing up the car, however another more important concern is theft. Leaving an expensive device like a BlackVue camera in the windscreen is just not a good idea. To the average drug addict looking in car windows for something  to fund his next fix, you may as well have just left £50 on the passenger seat. However I'll be damned if I'm going to install and remove a camera every time I go for a short drive to the shops, I know that after a while I would get fed up doing it and leave it under a seat, and of course that's when something would happen.

However all those concerns are behind me because I've finally got a small car camera that appears to perform as well as any of the large devices that I've tried but that can be discretely mounted in a car and forgotten about.

Just prior to this camera's arrival I was thinking about how to permanently install the Mobius camera in my car and I still think that this would be a good alternative option if you can find some way to mount it, but I find that the design of the Mini 0801 fits better with my requirements.

You can download Sample Clips HERE 

You have a choice of sellers, 

 

ebay options for UK buyers

ebay store in USA

Amazon US

Amazon UK

If you want to download the Windows only GPS Playback software I used in the video - here it is.

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Reader Comments (649)

Hi Mat,

Watched your reviews of dash cams in general, and this mini camera in particular. I ordered one from the site in NZ that you recommended. Camera arrived about 10 days later. I had it wired into the car directly, with the wiring hidden except for the couple of inches dropping down from the rear view mirror that connect to the camera. Got a class 10 32mb card as per your recommendation, formatted it in the camera and started recording! I'd like to take the opportunity to thank you for the reviews and to let you know that this camera (without optional gps) more than meets my requirements. I took out the memory card and stuck it into my MacBook Pro and up popped the clips. Picture was incredibly sharp by day and at night. I have been recommending your reviews and this camera to everyone who asks me "What's that thing?". Again, many thanks. Larry.

September 28, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterLarry

Philip,
Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't notice that the on/off switch causes reset, if pressed for a while. Unfortunately it was not effective in restoring normal LCD function. I do not look forward to an exchange situation likely to take a month.
Thanks, Gary

September 28, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterGary C

Just got mine from E-Prance on E-Bay. $105 (£65) all in shipped to the UK. Noted on package as "Car Parts - $10" so no customs random check charge. Took 3 weeks to arrive which is great given it was "Free shipping via China Post". So far very impressed. Just need to work out how to make the wire as hidden as possible inside the car ;)

September 29, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterchaz-d

My mini 0801 is not working anymore after only 4 weeks of use (always on 24/7). Look like it's unable to write to memory card fast enough, the video is slow and more than half the frame are skipped. I have 2 genuine sandisk 32Gb class10 cards (from the gopro website) and two 64Gb lexar class 10 from walmart and they all do the same thing.

Back to the dr32 for me

September 29, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterYoufermont

@Youfermont

If you look at the instructions.
http://dashcamtalk.com/cams/mini0801/Mini%200801%20User%20Manual.pdf
Page 4 says
"Please use high-speed TF card meeting the specification of TFHC. (CLASS 4 or above, Class 10 may cause some problem because the speed of card is too fast, it is better not us class 10 card)"

September 29, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

But they were working fine up to this week, will try some old class4

September 29, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterYoufermont

Thanks again for sharing a great review.. Looks like this is the one for me.

Did think about something that may make it stand out a little at night.. does the LCD screen glare against the back of your rear view mirror? Can you turn the display off?

Thanks

September 29, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRich

The screen turns off after 60 seconds for me. (it's a GUI setting)

September 29, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

After spending more than 400$ in a year on Chinese dashcam (v2000gs, dr32, 2x mobius and one mini 0801) I just ordered a Vico WF1. I hope this one will be the good one, every one of my Chinese cam have issues like poor night shooting, refusing to connect to PC, error writing to cards etc etc. I will have a review on my youfermont YouTube channel when I received it, can't post link here cause I do not want to spam techmoan blog.

October 1, 2013 | Unregistered Commenteryoufermont

FYI: It's now confirmed that the Mini 0801 is perfectly stable if you use a Class 4 microSD card.

If you use a Class 10 it will shut down or lock up once the card is full and overwrite/recycle begins.

So again, only use a Class 4 microSD card in the 0801. (for .MOV firmware)

See the usual thread for the latest developing news.
http://dashcamtalk.com/forum/index.php?threads/smallest-ambarella-car-dvr-a-k-a-mini-0801.1001/page-41

October 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

@ youfermont

If your Mobuis was faulty then you should return it and if the only problem with the Mobius was connecting to a pc, that would be if its running windows 8 and that is easily sorted.

October 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMo Abudue

@ Mo Abudue

Would you please explain on the Mobius vs Windows 8 connection problem, & how it's easily sorted? Thanks.

October 2, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

From the JoomVuu ts and cs:-

"laws of the State of Manchester, UK "

Should suit Techmoan :-)

October 3, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterStuartb

@russ331

Its on one of these pages http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904559

The bad news is I dont know what page and its up to 230 pages of comments.

October 5, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMo

@Mo

I've now received my Mobius. It works fine with Windows 8

October 6, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

FYI: We just found that the latest firmware to be the most stable yet!

http://www.procam.ru/files.html

PROCAM_CX4_v2_fw_2013-09-11.rar [2.6 Mb] (Count: 290) Firmware (FW VER: 20130911) for Procam CX4 revision 2. *

http://procam.ru/engine/download.php?id=53&area=static

"The new firmware FW VER: 20130911 for DVRs Procam CX4 version 2.0 and above
with built-in memory of 8 GB." (works on those with out the internal memory as well)

"Changes:
1) storage format. MOV instead. TS
2) A higher bit rate recording
3) Optimized algorithm for processing and packaging of video
2) Increased stability of the device
3) Improved quality video at night and during daytime
4) Improved audio recording
5) new option "DELAY TIME POWER OFF" It lets the camera keep recording on battery power after power is shut off for up to 10 min. Options = 30 SEC, 2 MIN, 1o MIN, or OFF

I got the Russian 0911 firmware installed! Extract .bin from .zip.
Rename the firmware-NO1.bin to firmware-NO1-SPI-TB15.bin
Place it on the root of your microSD card. When you power on the camera it will prompt you to update yes/no (pick yes)
Once you upgrade it will be in Russian.
To change to english, open the settings menu, scroll up 4 clicks, hit OK, and scroll down to English.

More info.........
Look for язык (aka Language) and change Русский (aka Russian) to the BLANK spot and that's English. Now that it's English the blank spot is no longer blank. (actually says English)

I only skimmed over these translated forum posts in the past, after reading a bit more, there is a LOT of interesting in depth information here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://videoregforum.ru/threads/procam-cx4.480/page-12&prev=/search?q=20130823+firmware+procam&biw=1355&bih=803

P.S.
What's with all the Mobius talk in the Mini 0801 post? (move it to DashCamTalk guys)

October 6, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

@ JazJon

Considering this is your first cam, Im not sure how you are so full of expert advise on dash cams. I have had 6 so far and I dont pretend Im all knowing and that this is the best 'bang for buck' cam. How would I know? ............Oh well I guess if Id had more than one I might do.... but yet I still dont preach to others.


PS I am a professional photographer and know a little about cameras.

PPS who made you a MOD? Oh I see NOBODY

October 6, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKeith S Michael

@ Russ Thats great to hear.

@ Keith LMAO

October 6, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMo

@ Keith, I'm just saying I'm subscribed to hear about 0801 buzz, not on going issues of a whole different camera.
I have 20 years of Electronics experience (was in the Air Force, EWS on the U2) My first dash cam was actually the DVR-207. I was looking for the best bang for the buck at the time but it sucked so bad I returned. it. I researched several more months before deciding on the Mini 0801. I know enough to enjoy helping others.

FYI the current best bang for the buck is the G1W. It has WDR (for outstanding night vision) and is only $52 USD / £32.45
http://dashcamtalk.com/g1w/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310752336819
(assuming you don't want GPS of course)

But yeah back to the 0801. CX4 Firmware 20100911 is going strong. I'm waiting for Givoe to get back to me for firmware 20130913 everyone is using. (arrives with) China has a national holiday and most re-sellers are closed for 2 weeks. I'm ready to try 20130913 since I'd rather use an official firmware long term. (not Procam CX4)

Again only use Class 4 or 6 cards and it won't trip up any more.

If you want to know "why" here's a possible explanation.

After doing some extensive reading on the https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/speed/speed_class/ site, where it explains that class 2, 4 and 6 cards use a standard speed bus, but the class 10 and the newer classification UHS-1 uses a far higher bus speed, with the new UHS-2 being even higher still, but these later cards can only give higher speeds in devices that support class 10 and the UHS specs.
Which basically helps to explain why the higher speed cards are less reliable in some devices.

It also states that class 4 & 6 does support HD video which we already know, but I definitely think that users of this Mini 0801 camera would be well advised to stick to Class-4 or Class-6 cards, as it sounds like the camera does not support the higher bus speeds of the faster cards and it's this that's causing the issues even though they are supposed to be backwards compatible.

Reading the articles on that site makes one understand better why we sometimes have issues with the so called faster cards on some devices.

So again, STICK WITH CLASS-4 or CLASS-6 which use the standard bus speed and all should be well.

October 6, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

I have to agree with JazJon. There is a separate review here on Mobius if people want to discuss Mobius.

Keith obviously you don't know JazJon well, this guy has been a guinea pig himself to test out and experiment with different firmwares, then came back and reported on his findings to us in Dashcam forum, I applaud his effort.

I myself have ordered a Mini 0801 and waiting for it, in the mean time I am keeping up with the news by JazJon, Niko and a few others at Dashcam forum to seek out the best firmware available.

This CX4 firmware has been reported by JazJon it does not allow you to change the G-sensor setting.

Final note, I am still waiting eagerly for for Phillippe to post his/her 3 dashcams video and comparison. Or has he/she given up?

October 6, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterefoo

Quick question.. I bought this from Givoe a couple of weeks ago - it has a firmware update of 20230922 - the issue im having is that i can not get the gps to appear as a stamp. I purchased the GPS/TF32GB option and 8GB backup built in.

When i cycle through the display options, GPS does not appear, even though under the GPS category i have it set to "Open".

am i doing something wrong? Ive connected the GPS mount onto the camera itself and turned it on thinking it would acknowledge the GPS functionality but it doesnt appear to be doing so. Is there a trick to this?

Also, how did you get your DRIVER, DATE and TIME AND GPS to all appear on the video at once? i dont see where i can do that.

October 7, 2013 | Unregistered Commentertumbras

@tumbras

Sounds like you have the newest firmware yet! I assume you meant 20130922. (I'm going to ask Givoe for a copy)

I don't think you can display everything at once. I have two different options for the various stamps. I think "CAR" sill show the GPS data if I recall. I leave all my 0801 stamps off and add them later via RegistratorViewer
http://www.registratorviewer.com/index_en.html
It will let you pick the font, location, and size/color too. No need to "hard" encode the stamps, better to keep the video clean. All the details are in the GPS .log files.

I posted about your new firmware and question here:

http://dashcamtalk.com/forum/index.php?threads/smallest-ambarella-car-dvr-a-k-a-mini-0801.1001/page-57#post-28682

October 7, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

This is very interesting following this post, but what I find confusing, is that I keep hearing of firmware updates, but I do not even know where to go to look for firmware update for my Mini 0801. What site are you people going to for these updates? and when you you find them how do you install it on the Mini 0801? Am I missing something or misunderstanding something here?

October 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAsborn

@Asborn
http://dashcamtalk.com/

http://dashcamtalk.com/mini-0801/

http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/index.php?threads/smallest-ambarella-car-dvr-a-k-a-mini-0801.1001/
We are waiting for the download link from Givoe at Aliexpress and or eprance from ebay. As re-sellers they both have direct connections to the manufacturer & engineers. The Company that designed the camera, and Factory that makes them don't sell direct or even have a product page. Everything is outsourced through multiple solution providers. You get support from the person you buy it form, so it's best to buy from a recommended re-seller as per the FAQ page. The best support you'll find is crowd sourced via dashcamtalk. There is one other good site but it's all in Russian.

I'm currently waiting to get a hold of the 20130922 firmware

October 8, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

Thank you Jazjon.

October 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAsborn

Ah yes - the WAF rating. All too seldom ignored. And necessary if the said device is for the wife's car.
Congrats on the exceptional reviews.

October 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChris

I take onboard Techmoan's comments about the negative aspect of having GPS. He chooses not to have the speed stamped on recordings.

But anyone seeing a latitude and longitude stamp knows that that means speed can be determined. So displaying latitude and longitude is almost as bad as displaying the speed.

So, can anyone please tell me if you have the GPS model, can you keep the latitude & longitude stamp off the video when recording, and just choose to access it (possibly along with the speed) on playback if you want it? Just like video cameras can record without a time and date stamp on the recording but if you press a button during playback, they will reveal it. The relevance is that latitude and longitude are recorded but are hidden from view.

Thanks

October 9, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMikeS

Hi,
I'm really interested in buying this camera but the eBay auction that's linked to has restricted postage to certain countries and doesn't post to Spain, which is where I live. I have found a seller on eBay by the name of "eprance", not "e-prance" who does do shipping to Spain. Bit confused as to why someone would have separate accounts! But has anyone bought from "eprance"? And would anyone recommend the model with 8Gb internal memory?

October 13, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterEd

@Ed, check out this thread for talk on the confusion of e-prance multiple seller accounts.

http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/index.php?threads/look-how-e-prance-doing-the-business.2498/

I'm in the U.S. so don't have any suggestions on which re-seller to pick for Spain.

October 13, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJazJon

It doesn't explain why there are two very similar accounts on eBay, but I may go for the one on 'eprance' (no dash) anyway as they have it at a similar price with similar feedback

Ed

October 14, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterEd

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