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Jan202014

The Innovv C1 Review

At long last here is my review of the Innovv C1 camera. This is a very interesting little camera with a number of clever features. The manufacturer has set-out to make the best mini 1080p camera, watch the video to see if they succeeded. I didn't mention price in the video because these things often change, but if you click the links below the video you'll see the latest deals.

Innovv has been putting out regular firmware updates to tweak the camera and add features...which is of course a good thing, but it also makes it difficult to review when the goalposts keep moving. So consider this video to be a demonstration of this camera's features and abilities as of early January 2014 if you are reading this in a few months then some of the things I've mentioned may well have changed.

I haven't found anyone selling the Dash-cam lead seperately, I'd imagine it's the same one used in some of the 808 keyring cameras, but I can't confirm this until I unearth my old 808 #26 wire. It's unfortunate that a special lead is required if you want to power and record at the same time or utilise the auto power on/off function, so hopefully they'll consider bundling this important USB wire with future sales. 

One thing I didnt mention in the video is that, as expected, there is no gap between clips when using this camera as a dash-cam...rather each new clip repeats a fraction of a second of the previous one.

If you want to read the manuals, install the GUI Update Utility or get the firmware updates, they can all be obtained from the Manufacturer's website HERE.

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Download Samples HERE. As always, don't stream these, because if you do the quality will be no different to watching them on youtube. To download, change the dropbox thumbnail-based file page into a list (icon at the top right) then click on a file and choose Download (Icon bottom right 'More Actions'). Once they are downloaded you can play them from your hard-drive to see the true untouched video quality.

More info about the Innov C1 is available on the Dashcamtalk and RCGroups forums.

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Reader Comments (63)

As always - Informative. I was having a hard time deciding between this and the Mobius. Think it'll be the Mobius.

Something I'd like to see is a M/C suitable "dash-cam". i.e external lead AND waterproof.

January 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChris

Nice review....Manufacturer now includes the record/charging cable. Will you be make another review.?

January 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterFrancis

here is where u can get waterproof case and other gear http://www.innovv.com/

January 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterneil

I've watched most of your reviews, and wanted to mention something about comparing C1 and Mobius. Recently mobius guys made a whole lot of update both camera firmware and utility software, adding significant amount of features, like motion detection, color correction and exposure. Don't know if you know about that;
And mobius is not dropping frame rate while being as competitive as C1 in low light conditions.

January 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIlja

What a cracking little camera you have reviewed there. If I didn't have a Mobius already I'd be considering that carefully. Shame about the propitiatory non-USB plug though.

Who is going to bet against a similar piece of kit with a lens that can be rotated 90° and in a waterproof case (preferably with a standard microUSB socket) in the not too distant future? That would give a camera that works in every orientation (with the auto-flip) and the option of an external power supply for longer running. And that would be fabulous!

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterVoyager03

Looks like they've sculped the C1/C2 from the Mobius is some ways. For example, the 3 buttons look quite similar especially in layout. The GUI also looks very similar as does the fact that they have a cradle for it.

Quality of picture is very good, but it really does not match the Mobius which is the thing I mainly focus on...the only thing that sets this above the Mobius for me is the microphone which I find to be better as well as the looped recording switch and perhaps orientation sensor...but all of this for me is a bunch of party tricks.

Good and thorough review as always. Keep up the good work.

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChrisTMH

Hi Mat, great review, I never seem to get tired of seeing these reviews, always interesting to see the differences between the cams.

I have two Mobius cams, and I find myself still to leaning towards the Mobius for the reasons mentioned. I suppose one disadvantage of the Mobius is the heat sink that does actually get quite hot during operation, although it doesn't seem to harm it. However, I did leave the Mobius on once for a long time by mistake with the power lead connected to a separate battery source and when I remembered it was still on - it was very hot indeed and the recording had actually stopped even though there was still space on the card, so thought it was worth mentioning.

I do agree the design of the C1 / C2 looks quite good in silver metal, but perhaps this is more obvious as a cam compared with the Mobius in black, which is unobtrusive.

All in all - one to watch - if they sort the lighting issue and the cable issue, it becomes a good contender.

Keep up the good work, thanks again for listening.

Daz

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDaz

Hi Matt, just thought I'd mention, the usb lead from the type 26 key cam will work with the Innovv and is obviously wired the same way. Bob

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBob Moore

Thanks for the confirmation Bob, it saves me digging through boxes of wires trying to find it.

January 22, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Mat, again, thank you for an excellent review. I watched it with great anticipation. Your reviews are such a pleasure to watch -- you have a very likeable personality and you always seem to focus on the details that matter to me -- and they are so informative.

I couldn't help but notice a blue tint in most of the videos, especially at 13:21. Did you notice this as well?

Personally, I prefer the rugged feel of the Mobius because it never feels like it is going to slip out of my hands. Moreover, the black matte black color makes it much harder to notice inside a car. I could be wrong but I would guess that the bright colors, even the bright black color would make it more noticeable. Would you agree?

Again, thank you for another excellent review.

John

January 22, 2014 | Unregistered Commenteryoungturk

Thanks for another wonderful review. I decided to order a Mobius as well. Seems they were trying to copy Mobius but not quite successful yet.

January 24, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTrevor

Thanks for the review, The new blog released as below,

Techmoan and The Innovv C1 review

http://innovvactioncam.blogspot.kr/2014/01/techmoan-and-innovv-c1-review.html

January 24, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRockThinking

Indeed, thanks for the review, looks like a Mobius clone indeed. Having a lens that could be rotated would be great indeed!

January 24, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterwebvan

Id also really like a camera that could have its lens rotated so it could fit as a low profile helmet mount, while still having normal widescreen video.

January 27, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDonald

Nonstandard USB = no buy for me. I've had it with nonstandard connectors. This is dumb and pointless. Do they have to pay a royalty to use a USB plug or something? Just trying to understand why they would do that.

January 27, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJRR

Whats with all the pop ups .? and now the double underlined words MORE advertising crap. IT SPOILS YOUR SITE OR PAGE ,What ever im trying to watch. you have one less fan because of your pop ups .

January 30, 2014 | Unregistered Commentergeoff D

I think you must have a virus....I don't have any of those things on my site.

January 30, 2014 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

If you're thinking about buying an Innovv, also see <http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/threads/side-by-side-mobius-b-lens-vs-innovv-c1-old-new-lens-vs-panorama-ii-day-night.4104/> , in which an Innovv owner reviews it against the Mobius & Panorama II (an excellent $200 dashcam).

February 3, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterruss331

Hi Techmoan,

I just got my Innovv C1camera yesterday and landed to your great review (the best so far for this model) in order to fully understand this tinny cam. I almost master everything that said in the manual except the motion detection function. I don't know why mine doesn't record any motion as I wish. Maybe I missed one step^ Here is what I did: switch to Parking mode and see the red/green light blinking rapidly. From there, I don't know whether I leave it as is or I have to press the shuttle button again. The manual from the manufacturer is so poor and can't really help me to solve the issue.

Thanks for your help and look forward to reading you.

Theo

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTheo

You don't want to be in parking mode! Download the GUI, turn off G sensor, but turn on motion detect. Press the shutter button. It will record for 1 minute after which it is in motion detect mode. Any movement in front of the camera it will record. Parking mode uses a G sensor which needs a physical shock to start recording. The idea is when your car is parked and powered by an optional special lead, it will start to record if your car is hit by anything.

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBob Moore

Hi,
I downloaded the GUI and tried to turn the Motion Detection ON through the panel and hit the SAVE TO CAMERA but it prompts me to find a folder. Alternatively, when I hit CREATE CONFIGURATION FILE, nothing happened. I am totally confused with this cam.

In the event, I am able to turn ON the Motion Detection, how it would affect my continuous record while driving^ I am using the camera as a Dashcam.

I understand now the meaning of G-sensor.

Many thanks

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTheo

One more question: there is no indication on the GUI that the G-sensor can be shut down. I do have three options: High-Normal and Low.

Thanks

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTheo

Plug in the camera, then turn on. Your pc should see the camera as an external drive. Decide on the config you want, click create file, then save to camera. When it asks where, select the location your pc sees the camera as a drive. Save. Turn off the camera, and then turn on again. The led will flash for a few seconds showing it's loading the new config. When all activity stops, unplug. It should be set up now.

The latest version of GUI has a turn off option. It can be downloaded from the Innovv web site Specifications page.

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBob Moore

Thanks Bob for your assistance. I finally figured out how to update the cam setup. I will download the latest GUI version as suggested.
Cheers from Edmonton (the cold city)

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTheo

I'm not sure if Techmoan mentioned it, I could have missed it, but rotating the camera does NOT work if the g-sensor is turned off.

February 4, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGeoff

EDIT: Looking back, I don't think that the unit demonstrated had the option to turn off the g-sensor, so that wouldn't have been mentioned.

February 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGeoff

The lens on the silver camera sticks out slightly, but on the other cameras (Gold, Black & Blue) they are flush...Were these post-production models?

February 5, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAbz

Although I like the design and the features, I couldn't live with that fisheye lens. Would still opt for the Mobius

February 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterCeeBee

Hi Folks,

I start enjoying the Innovv cam which does fully what I am hoping from it. However, I had a few problem since this morning due to mistake last night: I pushed to hard the memory stick therefore, the slot moved down and becomes too tight. I was not able to pull out the Miscro SD. Then I removed the rear metal panel.

This morning, I used the cam while driving to work. Surprisingly, the backgroud picture becomes a bit blurry while the forground is so clear. I have the feeling that the lens is focusing on my windshield instead of the outside pictures. I could even see all scratches on my windshield. I tested in the office through my windows and all the far buildings aren't sharp.

I opened again the rear metal panel and the front one. Placed them back. It seems the picture quality is getting better but I am not sure if it is the optimised focus.

Does any one has an explanation on that issue?

Thanks,

EDIT: I confirm that th G-Sensor can be turned off with the last version of GUI (ver 3). I left mine on ON.

February 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTheo

@ABZ: if you buy one now, all the new cams c1 or c2 come with the new lens (bold shape). I had that confirmation from the manufacturer by email before purchasing. Mine was arrived 2 weeks ago and the looking confirms his message.
I was ordering directly from their website (less expensive)

February 7, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTheo

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