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ACTION CAMS

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A119
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Sena Prism Tube

My favourite USB battery power Pack

This is the excellent USB power pack I use when I travel.

2 x 2.1amp outputs. 8400mAh capacity.

Two digit Led display shows battery level

 

What SD CARD should I buy?

If you want an SD Card for your camera - these are the ones I use and recommend. 

I'd strongly recommend not to buy any SD cards off ebay - I've heard about too many issues with counterfeit cards - often sold on by unwitting resellers. My inbox regularly gets messages from people who bought a £150 camera then cheaped out and bought a £3 memory card on ebay - Then when it doesn't worth they blame the camera! It doesn't make any sense. Good memory is cheaper than it's ever been - see the links above.

A lot of HD cameras will not work properly with cards larger than 32GB (cards over 32GB are usually SDXC rather than the SDHC standard used by 32GB cards. SDXC cards use the ex-FAT system rather than FAT32 - in short they are a different standard). - so don't just buy the biggest card you can afford - read the specs in the manual to see what it accepts.

UK & US LINKS & PRICES BELOW

RECOMMENDED CARDS (for action cams - see dashcams below)

CLASS 10 UHS-1 CARDS (For HD Cameras)

 

U3 CARD (For 4K cameras)

 

 

SPECIAL DASHCAM CARDS

The SD card in a dashcam is re-written over, more frequently than in other types of cameras. Some manufacturers void their guarantee if an SD card was used in a dashcam. So, no surprise, there are special High Endurance SD cards made just for dashcams...here's some.

 

VERY IMPORTANT. These links take you to the product, however Amazon have three different ways of selling. There's Amazon Direct - This means that you are only dealing with Amazon themselves, then there's other sellers that use Amazon's facilities - these show as Fulfilled By Amazon and finally there's Market Place sellers that advertise on Amazon, but operate independently.  I strongly recommend that you only use the first...the Amazon Direct - Sold By Amazon option. Even if it appears that you are paying a couple of £/$ more it is more than likely you are comparing the price of a real item against the price of a fake.

To give you an idea of the extent of the fake goods problem. In a 2016 survey by Apple - 90% of the 'Apple' chargers sold through Amazon - using the other the two methods..which includes the "Fulfilled by Amazon" option -  were found to be counterfeit....90%! 

            

 
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Saturday
Dec062014

SJCAM M10 - All you need to know

Judging by the comments and emails I receive, it appears that a lot of people are interested in the upcoming SJCAM SJ5000+. Most messages I read point out to me that the SJ5000 is already out and then ask when my review will be coming out...

The SJ5000+ is not out (yet) - it's only a Pre-Order and I can only start a review when my camera is delivered from China (presumably in early 2015). I always try to purchase the things I review so I get the full consumer experience. Pre-production review samples can bear little relation to the finished product due to firmware and hardware changes that take place at the last minute. I don't want to spend weeks reviewing a camera that turns out to be different to the one that goes on sale.

Assuming I get my pre-ordered SJ5000+ camera in early January, the earliest I could get the review done by would be the end of January or in early February. The best way to find out when a video review is ready is to stay subscribed to my youtube channel and as soon as it's ready, you'll be notified. I never have any idea how long a video will take me to put together because even when I'm in the middle of assembling it I don't know how much more I'll need to shoot. I only know I'm finished when there is nothing more to say.

But back to the present, the video below is about the newest SJCAM model that's actually on sale today, the M10. In a similar vein to how console manufacturers repackage the outgoing machine in a smaller, sometimes cheaper package whenever a new model is imminent, SJCAM have effectively repackaged their old SJ4000 internals in a smart new case.

So watch the video below to see why I feel that despite this being last year's warmed up tech, I think that the M10 is the best SJ4000 made. 

You can also see my complete SJ4000 WiFi edition review here (whilst the M10 I reviewed is not the WiFi version - all other features are the same).

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Reader Comments (101)

hi! i watched your review on sjcams and i bought sj4000 based on your review. so here's my question is the sj4000 or sj5000 camera can connect with any brand of smart watch? I'm planning to use it as remote. hope you'll give me answer thanks in advance!

May 28, 2015 | Unregistered Commenternico

Thanks for the review - purchased based on your thorough analysis!

Is there any remote control unit that's compatible with this camera?

June 12, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterRob

I think I won't lose interesting video for a while because of storage space.
I just pushed a 128GB Samsung EVO MicroSD card to the M10, and it works fine so far. Even though the datasheet says "up to 32GB"

July 9, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterRelakS

I bought the Wifi version on Aliexpress for 70€ (was a special offer).
The camera arrived and I did the security check with the code on the box http://www.sjcamhd.com/safe/ and was ok (original sjcam).
Now I updated the firmwire to the latest version (found here: http://www.sjcamhd.com/news/sjcam-m10-wifi-new-firmware/ )
After the update the camera works fine but when turned on shows a Qumox booting logo instead of the old sjcam logo.
I know that some sjcam are sold with Qumox logo but mine is sjcam branded. Anyone used this firmwire? Where I can found the original firmwire from sjcam (if sjcamhd.com is not the right place)?

July 14, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterLocomotrice

Thanks for the nice review.
I want just to add that on the M10 Wifi model the extra menu button is actually the wifi button, so the menu navigation and mode selection is like the sj4000

July 14, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterLocomotrice

Hi, iam trying to download my videos from the sjcam m10 on the app but it keeps coming up with the message error please allow access to the album first, any ideas, thanks.

July 18, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterJames Jack

I have a couple of questions about this m10.

I have one myself but I can’t figure out how to use it as a dashcam without battery, i use usb and connected it to my car's usb port, it keeps asking me for pc camera or mass storage. When I choose pc camera, it won't record. How did you do it?

Also, when trying to change the date, i can only change the year but I can’t change the day and month. Were you able to do it?

Thanks

July 20, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterBehind

Your car's USB port is for putting music into your stereo and therefore acts like the USB port on a computer by accessing any devices that are attached to it and using them as external storage. You should attach your camera to the 12V lighter socket. Use a USB charger plug.

July 20, 2015 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Just bought one of these..all works great but can only change the year in date settings. record/ok button and menu button just take you back to menu of the main record screen - seems no way to scroll to the month, day, time etc..so effecively useless as you have to live with the wrong date/time on the recordings!

July 22, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterLiam K

....so I updated my M10 firmware with the instructions at

http://www.sjcam.com/content/18-sjcam-m10-action-camera-firmware

..and now I can set the date - Power button scrolls between the fields...

July 22, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterLiam K

Out of the waterproof case, everything works fine and is lovely. However when it goes in the case, it will often freeze after powering up, requiring me to take it out, remove the battery and start all over again! Its no problem to start it before I put it in the case for my cycle to work, but when I'll use it in the water, it's not practicable to do so!

As I said, out of the case, it works fine - don't know if the case presses especially hard on something and freezes everything, or that my M10 doesn't fancy getting wet!

Has anyone else experienced something similar?

Yes me, I have exactly this issue, I used to hang the camera under my handlebars but had to switch to above so I could see when it happens, a proper pain in the arse.

Also the USB snapped of within one day.

You get what you pay for.

July 27, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterDap

Having read this and many of your other reviews I bought one of these on Ebay having checked that it was a legit and non pirated. I must admit that I actually clicked on the wrong seller they being overseas and not in the UK, whereas the other one was. I bought in March and received after a few weeks powered up the M10 and played around with the setting so I knew that everything worked. When I say powered up this included charging the battery.

I didn't have to use the M10 until the first weekend in May, during which time the battery had run down slightly so plugged in to charge up and decided to try out in the car. Fixed to the windscreen and connected a power lead, via a USB lead to the cigarette lead. Or so I hoped to as the connector dislodged in the M10. Now I though that this was a one off so I contacted the manufacturers for their comment, but got no response. So therefore did the same with the seller and they also failed to respond. (One of the failings with Ebay as once you have had the item for a period of time and you have provided your rating, it is almost impossible to contact Ebay, and all the seller is interested in is getting a high rating.)

So now have a dead un that I have never used for what it was bought for which was to test before investing in an SJ5000. I have not purchased an SJ5000 as I am now having second thoughts about their cameras. As always you never now how good a company or their customer services are until you need to use them. If this failed I hate to think what will happen on the motorbike if I got a bad one.

August 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterGeoff G

Hiya!
Wonderful review. Watched it yesterday and today my M10 wifi was in the mail, so I knew what to do.
Big problem however: after about 30mins of use, the Mode button is no longer responding.

Does anyone else have this problem?
Any tips on how to solve it?

Thanks!

Best,
Leonieke

August 6, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterLeonieke

Just a quick note as someone who used to own an SJ4000 and recently bought an M10.

My M10 has far, far worse audio an the SJ4000. It is unusably low even from three feet away without the waterproof case. I'll have to try mod it to take an external input.

Not sure if this is normal, or just bad luck with sample variance.

August 23, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterJeff

Mat, I am hoping you can help me understand something... I bought a M10 as I liked the form factor / design better than the one of the SJ4000. I believe I saw somewhere that the smallest interval (time-lapse) pictures it could take was 3 seconds, yet mine can only do it 5 seconds apart.
Did I get that wrong? Or is it my Micros SD card speed or firmware version?
Firmware version on mine is 20141104V01 (which I presume translates to 4th of November 2014 V01)
I am using a 32GB Samsung EVO card.
Thanks in advance!
Paulo.

September 2, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterPaulo

Hi, bought an M10 and am mostly really happy with it.
Small issues:
No non-volatile memory for settings: this means if you remove the battery all settings are lost, Surely a small eprom could be added to store setting (or in memory used by firmware?) for very little cost.
File naming and storage: Each file is stored in it's own folder and its name is made up of the time file recorded, but no date.
This makes it a pain to save files, as each file has to have the name edited to add a date (i have had on several occasions multiple files with the same name because they were recorded at the same time on different days), and copied from it's individual folder.
Ideally the files would be in a single (DCIM) folder with the date, like virtually every other device known to man.
Why they have this naming and folder system is beyond comprehension, wastes a huge amount of time, and could easily be fixed with a firmware update.
Lastly, it would be great if someone could bring out a camera with a decent sized battery and large (>32gb) card, for me 1.5 hours recording just isn't enough on many occasions. Again, this would add very little cost (the M10 battery costs I think NZ$12)

September 11, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterImaca

Everybody who owns a sjcam (sj4000, sj5000, M10), does the camera functions as normal, even after using it a while?


I read a lot of reviews and reactions that buttons stop working, usb-ports will break off and freezing of the camera when you put it in the waterproof-case.Does anyone experience these malfunctions? Or does someone have a solution for this?

At the moment I’m in doubt of buying a Sjcam M10. I’m going to use it weekly in different weather conditions. For me the video quality is good, the sound doesn't disturbs me, but the only question I’m left with is: what is the lifetime of the camera?

September 16, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterDonnay

I am looking at getting a commuter recorder when I ride my bicycle. At similar price point, I am hesitant between this and the stealth 2. I already understand the differences in practicality but would like some feedback on video and sound quality. Any one has tried both and can provide some feedback comparing both?

September 30, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterFrank

Hi Mat, (is it?)

I've enjoyed a few of your out and about SJcam reviews and recently bought an SJ5000 wifi and like it quite a bit. I have a few observations, such as Brits don't drive on the right side of the road, but none with any criticism of your reviews, so don't get nervous.

I understand fully what you are saying about the SJcam video modes and that 60fps is redundant and a waste of space. Considering the new M10+ with gyro stabilization and 2k video I am also finding it hard to find a source to view 2560x1440 videos so think that might be as you say, a waste of space also. My big home TV can display 1920x1028, my PC can display 1920x1080, forget my tablet or phone. So I have no way of watching 2560x1440 resolution video unless Hollywood producers turn my casual SJcam videos into the next blockbuster Sony film using 2k or 4k technology!

I am however hesitant with the idea of dropping all still image sizes to 2 megapixel from 14, because the information I've seen on official SJcam sites seems to insist the camera can support 14mp, on the SJ5000, or 12mp on the SJ4000. SJcam doesn't answer their phone or return emails so far to verify this, so, I'd like to run some tests to make sure I'm not wasting storage space also, but want the best still image quality.

I have also been experimenting with formating micro SD cards larger than 32gb with some of the special formats found on the internet. They seem to work to a point but fail well before the 32gb limit I had expected. I see the SJ1000 with 2k video was just introduced and SJ claims it will work with cards up to SD cards up to 128gb.

I like the SJ5000, but the wifi app doesn't do a whole lot. The next time I'm separated from my camel in the Kalahari Desert, I'll have to remember I would have been better off if I could have snapped his picture remotely with my Bluetooth, not wifi app on my smartphone. If the camera only had Bluetooth it should work, and as we know there is no wifi in the desert. The wifi password also has to be changed from my home wifi to that in my fiance's house to play with the phone app on her wifi. It doesn't log on automatically when I get there.

I'm now considering a basic SJcam M10 for these reasons, but have one criticism. When the M10 is in the waterproof housing, you can turn on the menu with the side button, but have no way of selecting menu choices using the up or down buttons because there are non on the waterproof housing. Unlike the SJ5000, you can't get to the buttons without taking a dry M10 out of a wet waterproof case using wet hands, and I don't think I want to find out how dry I can keep the unprotected camera, the next time I'm in Mexico swimming with the Stingrays when I want to change a setting.

Thanks, and I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments and I enjoy your tech videos,

ATF

October 8, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterATF

Hi Techmoan,

I got a m10 and l'm impressed by it.
Now that the new m10+ is out I am wondering if it's worth upgrading to this version.
I am curious about the gyro stabilisation and photo burst options.
Google or other YouTubers haven't really given me a clear picture (no pun intended).
Any chance you will be doing a review of the m10+?

October 15, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterErik

Yes I will. They're sending me one when the waterproof case is finished.

October 15, 2015 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

is this the same camera? I found it on wish and i was just comparing prices but I'm not quite sure if their the same camera, because of the image stabilization and wi-fi?

https://www.wish.com/search/SJCAM%20M10#cid=5582b7f1f7533125caf5f6c6

October 15, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAldo S Verdugo

Bought an M10 following your review and have to say I'm delighted with it. It takes very good quality video but this is lost when I try to make a movie. I use Sony Movie Maker 12 and no matter what settings I use the picture quality of the finished product is nowhere as good as the original file. Any thoughts on what render settings to use or does the input file have to be converted before use?

October 22, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterKeith Vincer

Hey, really like your site and reviews.

After seeing your review, the SJCAM M10 seemed like a good option to a GOPro so I bought one. It was shipped directly from China and arrived quite fast. I charged up the unit and set it up on a mini tripod to record, hit record and 26 minutes later came back and hit stop. At this point the record/on/off buttons broke from the pressure of hitting 'stop recording'. I contacted the distributor, who offered be a replacement if I mailed the broken camera back or a $10 refund. Seeing that the shipping charges back to China would have been roughly $60, I took the $10 refund and ran. Lesson learned.

November 3, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterBruce

Bought this a couple months back, was happy with it but seems like I'm having problem as of late.

I mainly use it as a dashcam with the battery.

First issue - 2 of my battery failed on me and won't charge anymore. Not a big problem since I can also use usb car charger.

Second issue - Now that I'm using the USB car charger, I need to turn off the camera before turning the engine off because my current video will become corrupt if I don't turn it off first.

Any suggestion on how I can just turn off the engine without corrupting the video?

November 4, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterSyd

Hi. I just have a quick question.
My sj5000+ wont turn on anymore.
If I press the power button a yellow light will flash on the LED and that's it.
here are the things I think caused it not to work.

1. drove for like 3hrs on a hot weather, no car tint, and sjcam is positioned in the windshield while charged in the cigarette lighter receptacle (battery was deformed, and a little lump has emerged inside the battery slot wherein you'll have a bit of a hard time putting in a new battery
2. I updated the firmware from 2.5 to 2.7. First, I got the white screen after the update, sjcamhd.com says I updated the wrong version so I tried the firmware for both 1.5" and 1.54" lcd. after that it wont turn on anymore.

So, any inputs on what really put it in that state?
Thanks in advance.

November 5, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterLime

Great Video! Have you had the problem that I have? Sometimes it just lock my Red button and it shows a Lock icon on the screen.

November 9, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterNélio Castro

hello Techmoan,
I wanted to buy Sjcam M10 but can't tell from the website that which one is real but for the basic edition M10 $20 difference in price on both websites...

www.sjcam.com sells for $79.99
www.sjcamhd.com sells for $99

December 7, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterHaroon Malik

The M10 is a good camera for the price. I watched Techmoan's reviews on the SCJCAM 4000, 5000 and M10 before buying the M10 from ebay. After some use I noticed a few problems which were not covered in this article nor in the review video. First of all the camera is very sensitive to cold. I live in Finland and at around -5 °C the camera slows down by a very noticeable amount; startup would take nearly three times longer than indoors. Framerate or recording quality is not affected by the cold which was a relief but it seems to slow down the saving of video files since now there was a gap between video files. It's not a big gap luckily, but rather annoying.

As you might guess the battery life also went down due to the cold. Indoors I could get the advertised 90 minutes of 1080p footage. Outside at -7 °C this dropped to around 75 minutes. Both times the camera was fully charged before use.

The last issue is the waterproof case. When the camera is in the case there is a blurred spot right in the middle of the frame. After reading some user forums it seems to be due to the machining of the case. The camera lens is too close to the case and maybe even touching it. When the camera is not in the case there is no blurred spot.

Here's a video I recorded with the camera: https://youtu.be/ERezTMxJ3Lg?t=55s
You can see the blurred spot in the middle of the video. It's not terrible but once you notice it you can't unsee it. :(

December 19, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterH4ukka

Hello techmoan
I wondering can I charge my m10+ sjcam using bike battery while riding a bike. It won't affect the camera right. please also tell waterproof case including charger cable for m10+.

December 25, 2015 | Unregistered Commenterbharath

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