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This is the excellent USB power pack I use when I travel.

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What SD CARD should I buy?

If you want an SD Card for your camera - these are the ones I use and recommend. 

I'd strongly recommend not to buy any SD cards off ebay - I've heard about too many issues with counterfeit cards - often sold on by unwitting resellers. My inbox regularly gets messages from people who bought a £150 camera then cheaped out and bought a £3 memory card on ebay - Then when it doesn't worth they blame the camera! It doesn't make any sense. Good memory is cheaper than it's ever been - see the links above.

A lot of HD cameras will not work properly with cards larger than 32GB (cards over 32GB are usually SDXC rather than the SDHC standard used by 32GB cards. SDXC cards use the ex-FAT system rather than FAT32 - in short they are a different standard). - so don't just buy the biggest card you can afford - read the specs in the manual to see what it accepts.

VERY IMPORTANT. These links go to the product, but Amazon have three different ways of selling. There's Amazon Direct - This means that you are only dealing with Amazon themselves, then there's other sellers that use Amazon's facilities - these show as Fulfilled By Amazon and finally there's Market place sellers that advertise on Amazon, but operate independently.  I strongly recommend that you only use the first...the Amazon Direct - Sold By Amazon option. Even if it appears that you are paying a couple of £/$ more it is more than likely you are comparing the going rate for a real item against the price of a fake one that won't work.

As an example of the extent of the problem of fake goods online...In a recent survey by Apple - 90% of the 'Apple' chargers sold by Amazon - using the other the two methods..which includes the "Fulfilled by Amazon" option -  were found to be counterfeit....90%! 

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RECOMMENDED CARDS

CLASS 10 UHS-1 CARDS (For HD Cameras)

 

U3 CARD (For 4K cameras)

 

 

 

            

 

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Tuesday
Dec152015

2K Gyro Action Cam Showdown - P2+ vs M10+

I prefer to buy the products I review because it makes things a lot less awkward if the item turns out to be a poor performer. The 'thanks for sending me your product, but I had to tell everyone not to buy it' is not a fun email to send. 

However on occasion when I've had a good experience with the previous models in a range, I'll accept a sample of an upgraded version because it means that I get the chance to review something I would have otherwise passed over for financial reasons. 

So when both SJCAM and Dazzne contacted me a couple of months ago and offered to send over the 'Plus' versions of cameras that I rate highly, I gladly accepted. 

The SJCAM M10+ and the Dazzne P2+ arrived on the same day. This was unfortunate timing as my camera reviews usually take three to four weeks to put together, and I knew that neither manufacturer would be happy to wait two months to see their camera demonstrated on YouTube. I therefore decided to shoot both reviews at the same time, as things progressed I realised the cameras shared a lot in common and the two seperate reviews were merged into the comparison video that you can view below.



Sample video clips and photos from both cameras can be downloaded from pcloud. 

The SJCAM M10 can be purchased from eBay (click to see the latest price) and is also available on Amazon US or Amazon UK.

The official manufacturer website is SJCAMHD.COM

The Dazzne P2 Plus can be found on Amazon US and Amazon UK and here's an ebay search.

A word of advice, if the waterproof case is important to you, please check with the seller whether they are supplying the updated version I demonstrated in the video. The older version of the waterproof case didn't allow access to all three buttons on the side of the camera. 

I've yet to find any places selling  the Dazzne P2+ in volume, but when I do I'll put the links here. In the meantime you can always do your own searches on eBay. 

  

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Reader Comments (25)

thorough, relevant, concise

thanks

December 15, 2015 | Unregistered Commenterlagerstarfish

Excellent video as usual. I have a query regarding the SJCam. I have been hoping a small camera like these would appear with less of a field-of-view than action cams and more approaching 35mm equivalent of 50mm focal length. Does cutting the field of view by half at 2k produce acceptable results at 1080 playback? The maths appear correct but I'm sure that ain't necessarily so (to quote Gershwin via Bronski Beat). I primarily use these type of cams for time lapse and slo-mo. Cheers, Matt.

December 16, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterMatt Warner

Your explanation of digital stabilization rivals the graphics in the new Star Wars movie.

December 16, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterChris

great post, as usual. I love the very detailed reviews you provide, however I would have an easier time choosing a cam if you posted a comparison matrix of some sort... It is easy to find all sorts of information on GoPro cameras, but I find it difficult to find any reliable sources for the SJ, Dazzne, and Git cams.

December 16, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterJeff The White Guy

good review, thanks techmoan. Now, waiting for the GIT2 review!!

December 16, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterNachoX

The Gitup team intend to send me a Git2 when it's finished.

December 16, 2015 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

@Matt, The best way to see if you are happy with the results of cropping the '2K' footage to 1080p is to download one of my 2K sample clips then crop it down.

December 17, 2015 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Have you any plans to do a SJ5000x Elite review? I think that is the latest release from SJCAM.

December 19, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterArthur

Thanks for the review.
I can't seem to access the download link for the clips and still photos. Does anyone else have the same problem?

December 29, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterAjith

Does anyone know how to distinguish the M10 + model that has Gyro Stabilization Anti-shake function from the model without it? It seems that most of what is for sale come without it ...

And thanks for the (another) good review techmoan!

December 30, 2015 | Unregistered Commenterchorondus

As far as I was aware, the M10+ has Gyro and the old M10 doesn't.

December 30, 2015 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Finally got to watching the whole review, thanks for some great work again, the comparison format worked well too I think.

It seems the stabilization is not quite as smooth as my Sony AS100 (did you ever get that one?) and for some "spy" work it still seems the Mobius is a good choice ? The M1+ and its screen are tempting though...

You didn't comment on the sound that sounded a bit muffled on the M1+ ?

January 14, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterwebvan

Can you tell me how I would use a suction cup mount, and be able to power the camera inside a car at the same time please Mat ?

I see their is no screw thread on the base of the camera ? and if you have the camera inside it's waterproof case you have no way of using external power ?

January 16, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterJeremy Travis

M10 - use the cradle mount shown at 01:37
Dazzne also sell a Frame Mount - you can find it on their website and ebay.

January 16, 2016 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

As always, thanks for the excellent review!

I have the regular M10 and love it. However, the buttons on my case require quite a bit of force to push and its difficult to feel the buttons 'click'. I use the camera mainly for windsurfing and snowboarding where I have to operate the camera purely on touch and therefore I sometimes get it wrong. Did you experience a difference between the buttons on the old and the new case?

January 22, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterJay

Great reviews. I bought a DR32 after your review and it saved us after my son had an accident and the other driver lied to the insurance co. Emailed the video and problem was fixed! I now have 4 (1 for each car). My only issue with this model is they need to warm up to work. We live in New England and if the car is outside in the cold it does not turn on and record until the car interior heats up. Not that big of a deal, except statistically most accidents happen only miles from your home and occasionally I need to reformat the memory. Thanks.

January 30, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterDavid

Hi, Recently bought a GitUp 1 (After watching Techmoan youtube vid) with all the associated gadgets, wrist remote, mic etc which I haven't had the time to use as yet... Something I find a little disconcerting however is that I have been sent a couple of technical questions about the function of the camera and the wrist remote (Q: Can remote control be linked up to multiple Git2 cameras (say at least 8 cameras) so that the remote controls them all simultaneously? Or could 8 cameras be remotely controlled by a laptop using the WIFI?). This came from the company themselves! Can't help thinking they should have someone able to answer these questions. If www.gitup.com don't know the answer to that, how are buyers supposed to buy with confidence? What do you think? Regards, Andy.

February 1, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterAndyRiley

I saw this SJCAM M20, pre-order items in one online store that I use to browse. I think that this is an updated version of the M10. If there would be a dependable review of this product, I would love to came from Techmoan.

http://www.banggood.com/Original-SJCAM-M20-2160P-16MP-166-Degree-Novatek-96660-WiFi-Action-Camera-Car-Sport-DV-Recorder-p-1038042.html

Thank you and more powers,

March 7, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterBryan

Very informative review. Got M10 lately.

Hey Jeremy Travis, is your car attachment resolved? You just need suction cap with adapter and use the clip for you to plug the USB cable for power supply.

March 10, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterRolymer Zalsos

I'd like to buy an M10+. However, I plan use a powerbank for external power so need access to the USB port with the protective case on the camera (cycling use). The new waterproof case has a large latch which covers the case across the USB port. So I don't see how I could drill a hole in the case to gain access to the USB port. Would the old model waterproof case allow a hole to be drilled to get to the USB port given the latch seems to be further towards the rear of the camera (and doesn't appear to cover the case over the USB port)? You can buy a case for the Dazzne P2 which has a cut out to gain access to the USB port but I prefer the M10+ and I'm hoping I can get it to work with external power via USB while in the waterproof case.

Also, can you use a 64Gb memory card in the M10+ (I realise the specs says maximum 32Gb but wondering if anyone has tried a 64Gb card successfully).

Many thanks for any help.

March 15, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterbiker jk

I won't buy any of the SJCAM items as I bought the original M10 after the Techmoan review. I took it out of the box charged the battery and played around with it and then put it back. About 5 months later went to use it, connected the micro USB to USB lead and the internal micro connector broke. This was a legitimate item and the code scanned as successful on the sjcamhd.com/safe site. However even though I contacted both SJcam direclyt and the seller, neither had the courtesy to respond so now won't deal with either. I accept that this may be a bad batch but when neither the seller, a company, nor the manufacturer are willing to provide support then they are not worth having any financial dealings with.

April 1, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterDisapointed

Will you review the Soocoo S70? it's waterproof out of the box and it has LED lights as a flash on the front, at a competitive price!

April 27, 2016 | Unregistered Commenteranony

Great review as ever.
Bit of a geeky/niche question. Do either of these or any other action cam allow you to turn off the on-screen overlays when playing out to a TV via HDMI? I am looking to use camera to relay video of a live band to a monitor at the rear of the venue. Any recommendations welcome.

Keep up the great work esp the vintage stuff. Maybe even look at slim devices /Logitech music streamers and all compatible devices

May 2, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterRob F

I'm looking for a camera (not necessarily a dashcam, but one of them may work) that can take simultaneous videos from two angles at once (let say of someone teaching the guitar, one on each hand) and save them into MP4 H264 format. I'd like to save either view independently or both views together on the screen at the same time. Is there anything around that can do that? I haven't found anything, especially something that doesn't have to be plugged into a car. Thanks

September 16, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterRon Gordon

Nice review, as usual. Thanks!

October 11, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterw1nter

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