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This is the excellent USB power pack I use when I travel.

2 x 2.1amp outputs. 8400mAh capacity.

Two digit Led display shows battery level

 

What SD CARD should I buy?

If you want an SD Card for your camera - these are the ones I use and recommend. 

I'd strongly recommend not to buy any SD cards off ebay - I've heard about too many issues with counterfeit cards - often sold on by unwitting resellers. My inbox regularly gets messages from people who bought a £150 camera then cheaped out and bought a £3 memory card on ebay - Then when it doesn't worth they blame the camera! It doesn't make any sense. Good memory is cheaper than it's ever been - see the links above.

A lot of HD cameras will not work properly with cards larger than 32GB (cards over 32GB are usually SDXC rather than the SDHC standard used by 32GB cards. SDXC cards use the ex-FAT system rather than FAT32 - in short they are a different standard). - so don't just buy the biggest card you can afford - read the specs in the manual to see what it accepts.

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RECOMMENDED CARDS (for action cams - see dashcams below)

CLASS 10 UHS-1 CARDS (For HD Cameras)

 

U3 CARD (For 4K cameras)

 

 

SPECIAL DASHCAM CARDS

The SD card in a dashcam is re-written over, more frequently than in other types of cameras. Some manufacturers void their guarantee if an SD card was used in a dashcam. So, no surprise, there are special High Endurance SD cards made just for dashcams...here's some.

 

VERY IMPORTANT. These links take you to the product, however Amazon have three different ways of selling. There's Amazon Direct - This means that you are only dealing with Amazon themselves, then there's other sellers that use Amazon's facilities - these show as Fulfilled By Amazon and finally there's Market Place sellers that advertise on Amazon, but operate independently.  I strongly recommend that you only use the first...the Amazon Direct - Sold By Amazon option. Even if it appears that you are paying a couple of £/$ more it is more than likely you are comparing the price of a real item against the price of a fake.

To give you an idea of the extent of the fake goods problem. In a 2016 survey by Apple - 90% of the 'Apple' chargers sold through Amazon - using the other the two methods..which includes the "Fulfilled by Amazon" option -  were found to be counterfeit....90%! 

            

 
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Thursday
Jun232016

Dashcam Review: DDPai M6+ is the best mini cam I've used

In the video below you'll see a full Review of the best Mini Dashcam I've used. I've been using this in my car for six weeks and I can't fault the performance. I'm so happy with it that I have plans to buy a couple more when I can get the money together. Then I can replace the camera in my other car as well as try the dual camera functionality in my roadster. 

The highlights of this camera for me are the magnetic mount, the video quality and the time-lapse parking mode. Other notable features include WiFi, GPS and a wireless remote.

I bought mine from the ebay store linked below: (Click your country to see the current price). 

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I’ve purchased from this store plenty of times over the years without any problems. Delivery usually takes approx 10-14 days to the UK.

 

I cannot report on the long term reliablity of a product that has only been on the market a few weeks...but I do hope it carries on working for a long time, as I really like this one. 

Downloadable sample clips here: http://pc.cd/WSdctalK - Please don't be that guy who always tries streaming the videos and then gets back to me to say that they look terrible when streamed. These are provided for Downloading - they look like they were recorded with a potato if streamed over pcloud.

My 'BEGINNERS GUIDE to Dashcams' can be seen here: https://youtu.be/HQ0Tm9FFpKM

UPDATE - I must stress that this is not a basic simple camera suitable for beginners - it has a lot of features and you need to have a bit of experience with apps, smartphones and previous dashcams before you buy this camera.  If you are looking for your first car camera...this is not suitable. I have a list of recommended dashcams and something like the Transcend Drivepro 200 is a good place to start. Big clear screen, minimal options and simple features, no WiFi or reliance on smartphone apps which can lead to potential compatibility issues with specific phones. 

UPDATE 2 - OCTOBER 2016

I was getting a lot of questions about this camera - if you read through the comments below you'll see that the same questions keep popping up - so to help anyone out who is having issues with the smartphone features of this camera - please watch the video below - you'll also see a demonstration of the CPL filter in use. I recommend you watch this one on Youtube itself (click the youtube logo at the bottom of the video) and then you can skip to the appropriate section you need. 

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@ Albert

I check for firmware updates fairly regularly.
I believe my camera shipped with v3.3.0.18.
I updated the firmware on 07-14-2016 to v3.3.0.31.
The advertised firmware before and after the update was v3.3.0.31.
The update file was e-dog.bin-v1.0.0.8 but that was the same file downloaded on 07-14-2016 as well.
I take before and after screenshots of the app and firmware versions just to see what changes.
I also took screenshots of the firmware download to see what might change.
I think the initial update to 31 is the only full firmware update I've ever had.

August 5, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterViper DaSnake

Viper,

Thank you very much for the positive help with the queries that have been raised. As far as using the camera in the house, whenever someone has asked me a question, I've popped out to the car and slid the whole mount off, then I can plug it into a USB in the house and play about with the settings.
I have also put the CPL filter on mine and it seems to work...I don't know if anyone is interested in a very short video demonstration.

August 5, 2016 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

I have asked my contact* at DDPai about how two cameras can be connected together - here is their reply.

"Dear Mat,

M6 Plus or M6 Plus 4G is able to connect with any one of M series and mini series dashcam via WiFi networking.

Step: 1) Boot up two cameras as normal; 2)Press two remote buttons 6 times in 2 seconds synchronously to connect them together; 3) A voice prompt 'WiFi Networking Succuss' come out in about 30 seconds; 4) Connect M6 Plus camera to APP as usual; 5) Two images (front and rear, which can be switched by touching the screen) will be presented on your mobile phone screen."

- When I get a spare few hours - I'll try and test this out - as I do have the M6 and M6+ and a remote for both - the difficulty will be finding my M6 (and the remote) as I slinged it in a box somewhere after I bought the M6+.


*The person at DDPai contacted me after I made the video. I paid full price for this camera.

August 5, 2016 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

@Albert - Latest firmware - checked today and .JPGs are still being stored in the folder
The only thing I can think of is perhaps your computer OS is hiding them - check the size of the folder to see.

August 5, 2016 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

@viper il try that i have two cams one my son uses.his app shows the correct gps on his app but hes aving problems with the connection to cam jumping to house wifi constantly and having to put password in .mines just the gps which il fiddle with and previewing vidios constant buffering

August 5, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterpaul

Viper DaSnake, i used my portapower uk mains input to 4 slot usb output charger to power up my mini2 cam to support familiarisation.
The charger outputs 5 volts and upto 4.2 amp, and only provides the level of current drawn by the device.
So i unplugged all my phones and tablets and then attached the mini2. Works a treat and allows you to work on the cam in doors.
Its not currently available on Amazon UK but there are alternatives, which are also on Ebay UK.

August 5, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterTravelbuddy

(I wasn't trying to suggest you were being sponsored by DDPai when i mentioned them using your video, I was impressed they are responding so well and it's extremely welcome to see them continuing to support their products and communicate with their customers)

I for one would love to see a follow up article covering dual cam options with the m6+ and other compatible units. (written is good but video would be even better)

I would also be interested if you could cover the polarising filter option too, I have ordered the stick-on type with my cam. I'm a bit concerned about how effective that will be as every video showing such filters have shown that they work best with some degree of tweaking; not an easy thing with a sticker.

That said, I may get lucky and not have too much reflection to deal with anyway; hurry up Mr courier....

August 5, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterrichard

In case anyone is wondering, the wireless remote button uses a standard Lithium CR2032 3V battery. You may want to have an extra one as backup.

August 5, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterAlbert

any ideas why my memory card contents are chinese all of a sudden?

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterpaul

Hi Mat ~
Good that so many of your bloggers appear to have success with their DDpai M6+ cam. It is a really well designed & constructed piece of kit. The terrific video quality produced by M6+ and innovative search function provided by DDpai APP to look back thru recorded footage via wifi and android-based is very impressive. No maps were overlay-ed on "tracking" f'n, which makes squiggly lines 'route travelled' on blank page rather meaningless, but that is not deal breaker. During the first two weeks of setting-up my M6+, I planned to buy 2nd unit to incorporate as rear cam (no problem in supply of the unit from ebay provider you suggested in review of the cam). Mine sits very discretely out of sight behind rear-vision mirror (but I wish it was still working).

Unfortunately, in my case despite initial positive experience with M6+ (and in contact with DDpai manufacturer, thru Kevin Lee, Mktg Mgr), my situation is now not too good. Following receipt of the cam on 12 Jul, my Sony Z1 phone connected successfully. Set-up, formatting SD card and updating firmware was easy, although achieving subsequent wifi connection to the cam proved to be hit-and-miss. Often the APP simply indicated “No camera detected”. Tried 2 other android platforms to connect with my M6+. Both were successful a few times, but then also advised “No camera detected” … “Network connection failed”. Tried un-installing the APP and re-installing several times. Tried re-booting all 3 android platforms and the M6+. Used top quality micro SDcard (Samsung Pro Plus 128GB - 90-95 read-write). Tried other cards, incl Sandisk Ultra 4GB. Tried several different cables and power source of (all 2.1 amp). All LEDs on the DDpai M6plus have been illuminated when ign is on (and also for few days when I tried power setup thru Cellink B), but in at least 50 attempts in last 2 wks I have been unable to connect at all to the M6+.

I have removed the SD cards and successfully viewed recorded footage on PC (using VLC media player as suggested by one of your bloggers – thanks Anthony). Video quality is just what I wanted (even audio is good). However, the recordings stopped on 26 Jul. Since then, I have not been able to achieve anything with my M6+. (frustrating and disappointing) I tried making email contact again with Mr Lee in DDpai (twice), but nil response. Any suggestions pls (before I quit on M6+ and lconsider alternative, incl JooVuu X) ~ Leon.

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterLeon

@Leon

I had problems with my Android S4 connecting to the camera.

I was using cyanogenmod as my firmware at the time. I decided to reinstall the original firmware and found that it would connect better.

When I was using cyanogenmod I found that I needed to disable 3g Data.

When I did this I could connect to the camera. I may also have had the GPS disabled on the phone at the time.

Who knows if this may help you but since the camera is not recording any more it may not be related.

Do you still get the Hello DD PAI and the GPS Eway Chang Kong (or what ever it says)?

The hardware seems really good but the software on Android is really letting it down. I contacted feedback at ddpai and no response.

So they want to create a product ad treat their customers like crap - well they won;t be around for too long.

Chris

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterCHris Crowe

Hi Chris ~

In many attempts to connect to my M6+, I disabled 3G and wifi on the three androids used, opened DDpai APP and selected ‘Camera’ tab. The APP advised “no camera connected”. Pressing “add camera’ generated “Searching…” and opened wifi on my androids, but APP then advised “no camera detected”.. (just tried to connect another 3 times before sending this note - all attempts failed)

Earlier on (when I could connect to my M6+), under APP settings, I switched-off the welcome message “Hello DD PAI” - that worked OK. I then urned volume down on the APP to avoid the GPS connect message.

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterLeon

@leon


Have you gone into the advanced section and turned off the Advanced connection method and manually connect to the WIFI Access Point?

Chris

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterCHris Crowe

Well done Mr courier! My M6+ is here. Shame the new sd card for it hasn't arrived yet, boo.

I see from the previous comments that there has been mixed success with sd card choice, especially above 32gb but I have decided to have a go at 128gb and see how that works out.
Once it arrives it is a Samsung evo micro sdxc 128gb from MyMemory.com so hopefully it will be genuine and have a fighting chance of working. My plan B if that won't play ball is to swap that with the Samsung 64gb from my phone and Plan C should it come to it is to swap that for a Samsung 32gb from one of my kids tablets. (fingers crossed for Plan A)

Now that I've seen the cam in the flesh, I have a plan for the Polarising filter...
I have one of the sticker types on order so I will try it with that and see how that goes, if I'm not happy with that I have come up with a backup plan.
I have some nice black steel washers which could be stuck around the lens and then I should be able to use one of the magnetic polariser lenses made for the mini 806. I'm not sure if the magnetic part for those is on the camera or the lens but if needed I can magnetise the washer so that should be a viable option.

Now I just need a working sd card and the polariser sticker to have a play with.

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterrichard

@Techmoan
No problem. It’s just me thanking you for your reviews.
Removing that base sure looks like it has a limited number of removals before failure.
But I have to say, I REALLY like that magnetic connector!
I just wish there was a way to power the camera outside of the vehicle without pulling out the base.

@paul
With your son, is he using the phones built in wireless manager to connect to the camera or is he just letting the App do it?

Try removing the camera from both phones, then swap cameras.
You use your sons camera, and he uses your camera.
Do the problems follow the camera or the phone?
In other words, does your GPS work after that, does his wireless work after that?

@Travelbuddy
I have a ton of USB power sources available. (Battery and line power)
No issue with that.

@Leon
Just confirming…
Do you see this during the power up:
*Apply power
** Green and Red Solid light
** Then “Hello, Ding Ding Pie” (my interpretation of if :-) )
** Then Green light starts flashing
** Then the Blue Light is solid
** Then “GPS Ding Weed Comp Com”

When its completely powered up:
Do you have a Red power light?
…Solid?
Do you have a Green recording light?
…Blinking?
Do you have a Blue GPS light?
…Solid?

If you remove the SD and power it up,
does it give beep (dong) every few seconds?

If any or all the above is true,
Do you see the DDpai in your phones list of wireless connections?
Assuming Android, you should see it as a regular Wi-Fi device.
If so and Again assuming Android, Download Wi-Fi Analyzer from the author Kevin Yuan.
You can use it to monitor wireless signals and see if the DDpai is giving off a strong and regular signal.
I use this app regularly.

Other things to try.
Make sure the brass contacts between the camera and the base are clean.
Try a different known good USB cable
…not all USB cables are created equally. Try using one for your phone (assuming Android and micro USB)
Plug the USB directly to a known good USB cig adaptor. (bypassing the Cellink B)
Start the vehicle before powering up the camera.
Remove the camera a base and plug into a USB charger in the house.

Sorry if you’ve already tried all the above. I just want to see if there is any signs of life from the camera…

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterViper DaSnake

Techmoan, you need to create a forum on your website. The comments on this page are not categorized and are getting out of hand!

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterkevin

Playing with GPS…
So I’ve been digging through the GPS logs on the SD card.
It’s an understatement to say that those are 100% accurate.
If you look at the SD card:

\DCIM\103gps
The most recent files are stored there.
Those are only 3 minute counterparts to some of the more recent videos.
These files are just text logs that I believe are of the GPS coordinates associated with the last trip.

\DCIM\103gps\tar
These are compilations of the 103gps folder.
These are the original text files merged together with binary headers describing what videos they are associated with.
Again, I believe is that these files are the trips merged into a single file.

Both of these are readable with your favorite text editor. My files are correctly coded with North and West coordinates so the issues in the App are the Apps fault.

If you want to view these videos, go to:
www.gpsvisualizer.com
There you can import the logs and it will use Google Maps (or a ton of other sources) to create a map that gives you a visual representation of your trip. (Something that the App tries to do)

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterViper DaSnake

There appears to be a telnet server on the M6plus on 193.168.0.1:1123
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2377157&page=3

Looking at the most recent firmware file file (3.3.0.31)
www.ddpai.com/bbs/thread-20627-1-1.html

The 'passwd' & 'passwd-' files are noted below and aren't the username or password to the telnet
root:$1$$qRPK7m23GJusamGpoGLby/:0:0::/root:/bin/sh (No password)
root:ab8nBoH3mb8.g:0:0::/root:/bin/sh (helpme)

a 'strings' command run on '/bin/VYCam' seems to indicate that the login message in hardcoded in this binary file

Can someone smarter than me work out the rest on how to telnet to this device?

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered Commentercrashkeys

To aid getting started, Here are some resources:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r32vokx9yr3w4zf/AABls1XXmGIgIsBjWSKaF6h3a?dl=0

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered Commentercrashkeys

@viper can you not see the gps files with the vidio merged because they mean nothing without the vidio footage alongside.my sons works great on is app it shows is tracks and the street he had been to.on my app tracks its just a line with no background and no streets etc

August 6, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterpaul

@kevin
Getting out of hand. LOL
As a +40 year old man myself...
You sound like an old man yelling at the kids to "Get off my lawn", "Quiet down, I'm trying to sleep"..!
I don't disagree that a forum would be nice, but
Considering how low of a volume of traffic (comments) I wouldn't think it would be worth the effort.
And it IS an effort... http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2016/7/27/just-a-quick-comment-about-comments.html
(speaking as someone who has owned both a comment section like this and a full on forum)
But now that you have people like crashkeys and me who want to hack this thing,
It may very well get out of hand…!

@crashkeys
Now you've gone and done it...
I was poking around with Fing (Android) and found the open port 80 but it didn't know about 1123.

That's just one more reason I need to be able to power this thing in the house!
The only time I messed with the base and adhesive plate was when I opened the box.
I stuck the base on the plate and never touched it again.
It was a pretty tight fit then, and I wondered how hard it was going to be to remove.
I just removed it and it was effortless, I guess the 100 deg F temperature has really loosened up the base.

Fing brings up the “vYou camera system!” welcome screen, but I’m not getting past that.
Tried the same from a laptop.
The only thing I can think of is to use a switch that allows port mirroring and use Wireshark to see if the User/Pass is sent in clear text when the App connects.
...unless the User/Pass is not posted somewhere.
...not something I have time for right now.

I've been reading through the forum post on DDPai's website.
Seems this might have been a crowd funded camera. (back in 2015)
e-dog might be a speed warning function.
Version: v3.3.0.31 is the latest firmware posted on 07-29-2016

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN :-)

August 7, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterViper DaSnake

Regarding the Mini 2. As this is my 1st dash cam i took my time famialarising myself with the camera and installation. Was a bit apprehensive given the feedback occurring with the M6+ mainly due to the issues associated with the android app. So i setup 4 logins (Wife's ipad2, my android LG V500 tablet, android LG4 phone and an old android Samsung galaxy mini3 phone). Then tested each and all 4 worked without a hitch. So i went ahead and fitted the unit in the car and are going to use the Samsung mini3 phone as the controller. I know it is illegal to have realtime playback in the car but i have ordered a 12 volt charger / usb phone holder with a flexible stem to hold the phone. There's no gps with the mini2, which keeps it simple. Eventually i intend to get a powerpack so that i can use the parking mode. One issue i have found is the camera unit gets very warm, not hot but i fear it will have a limited life. Hopefully keeping the cars climate control on will minimise the effect somewhat.

August 7, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterTravelbuddy

@travelbuddy.iv hardwired mine and it gets realy hot to the touch but its the only way to use the parking mode features etc unless you have a battery pack which are pretty expensive

August 7, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterpaul

I've been using mine hard wired since the end of May and it continues to function normally. It does get warm, and the car has been outside (some of those days in baking sun) recording 24/7. Unfortunately everything has a certain amount of time that it can work before malfunctioning...Dashcams are one piece of tech that really take things to the limit. I pretty sure if I put my Sony RX10ii camera in the car and recorded 24/7 all year it would die, probably sooner rather than later, and that's a £1500 camera. It may be asking too much of a £100 dashcam to out-last the Sony...and whilst I'd like all these things to work forever, I know that there will be a point where they fail, so I'd recommend that anyone investing £100 in a dash camera bears in mind that it will definitely fail at some point...probably within a couple of years of continuous use. It would be very unexpected for it not to.

August 7, 2016 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Can anyone recommend a good PC app for handling video & data transfered from the M6+ ?

August 7, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterrichard

I'm probably biased mainly due to many years of dealing with software
that either crashed ms windows, had limited file format processing or
lacked 1080 or above output. It has quite a steep learning curve but
I recommend Sony Movie Studio vrs 13.

August 8, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterTravelbuddy

Yet another question, is it possible to disable the GPS so it doesn't record data?

August 8, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterRichard

@Richard

If you're after a video player VideoLAN is a good free one

http://www.videolan.org/

For video editor, DaVinci Resolve by Blackmagic is supposed to be good. Not used it myself. It maybe overkill for your needs but its free so nothing to lose.

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve

August 8, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterAnthony

@Anthony - Going to look at blackmagic myself.

@Richard - Windows Movie Maker is a free and simple editor as well. You may have to download the K-Lite codec pack to use it though.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17779
I don't think you can disable the GPS.

August 9, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterViper DaSnake

@crashkeys
Now you've gone and done it...
I was poking around with Fing (Android) and found the open port 80 but it didn't know about 1123.

Fing brings up the “vYou camera system!” welcome screen, but I’m not getting past that.
Tried the same from a laptop.
The only thing I can think of is to use a switch that allows port mirroring and use Wireshark to see if the User/Pass is sent in clear text when the App connects.
...unless the User/Pass is not posted somewhere.
...not something I have time for right now.


Other notes
I've been reading through the forum post on DDPai's website.
Seems this might have been a crowd funded camera. (back in 2015)
e-dog might be a speed warning function.
Version: v3.3.0.31 is the latest firmware posted on 07-29-2016

August 9, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterViper DaSnake

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