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Jan172018

The DENON DP 47F Turntable - an Automatic Classic

A surprising number of people enquired whether I would be making a video about my new turntable. They'd spotted it in a couple of recent videos and were interested to know why I'd replaced my Sansui. The simple answer is nothing more exciting than I wanted a record player with a hinged lid, but also I'll take any excuse to buy something as smart as this. 
   
Initially I thought there wouldn't be enough to say about it, beyond the fact it's a record player and it plays records. However as you'll see, this ended up occupying twenty minutes of video. 
  
So in the video I explain why I chose this particular 'vintage' turntable, I pass on a few tips for anyone thinking of buying a second hand player and explain my laissez-faire attitude when it comes to chasing audio quality.
 
  

 

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How does this turntable handle records which record sound into the lock groove? I have a few records where that is the case and realizing that it's infinitely repeating the same 1.8 seconds over and over again is an important part of the experience. :)

As far as quality goes, I have more or less the same attitude. If you're listening with such intensity that you're picking out the minute details between, say, a high-bitrate MP3 and a CD, you're probably not actually enjoying the music. And things like EQ curves are largely going to be adapted to by the audio processor that lives in your head, and anything over 17KHz or so isn't going to be audible anyway.

January 18, 2018 | Unregistered Commenterfluffy

It will play a locked groove normally, the same as any other machine. These automatic machines only return the arm when it goes into the run-out area and up to the label...locked grooves are still within the standard recorded area, so will just play as normal

January 18, 2018 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Eminently sensible review as always, Mat. I completely agree with you that 'good enough is good enough'. Like you, I am prepared to pay some extra for Hi Fi items that LOOK cool even if the additional money doesn't translate into a sound difference that I can hear.
For reasons I can't explain, I find playing vinyl a far more engaging experience than listening to other sources. Hooking up Echo Dot to my stereo I can ask Alexa to play any track I can think of, and it sounds really great, but somehow not quite as satisfying as putting a record on the turntable.
I wonder if you have any plans to investigate some of the early RCA record auto-changers when their 7" 45 rpm format with large diameter centre hole was competing with Columbia's 33rpm 12" records, and RCA were trying to minimize the lag between discs changing to get 'continuous' playback? I often think it was fortuitous than both companies decided to spin their discs clockwise, or the challenges in producing turntables that could play both formats would have been somewhat higher.

January 19, 2018 | Unregistered CommenterRoland

I don’t have any plans to do 45s - however if you haven’t already seen this video on the subject it might be up your alley. https://youtu.be/3l1O07Q0chc

January 19, 2018 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Excellent, thank you - some familiar and some new information there. Really enjoyed that!

January 19, 2018 | Unregistered CommenterRoland

That's the second time you've used those little scales to measure the weight of the needle. Can I ask what's the name/make/model of that little bit of kit?

January 20, 2018 | Unregistered CommenterRich

I don’t think they have a brand name - but if you put ‘stylus force scale’ into eBay plenty of them show up.

January 20, 2018 | Registered CommenterTechmoan

Really enjoy the videos about audio gear, defunct and otherwise, as well as many of the other tech videos. I've actually worked with audio equipment for over 40 years. No doubt, this is one of the most refined automatics, and will best more than a few manual tables. It's also one of the most electronically complex turntables ever made. It would not be a bad idea to change all of the electrolytics at some point. Of which, there are quite a few. Looking forward to the next video.

January 22, 2018 | Unregistered CommenterJoe

Hi, I have followed your youtube contributions for some time and love your matter of fact approach. I had been envious of your turntable for a while and failing to locate one I plumped for, a Denon dp-47f, also imported from Asia. Mine has different feet from yours (mine are simple black large round feet). Did you add the silver ones yourself? Also as my dl80 is also quite worn, where in the UK did you get a replacement stylus from? I found one site but perhaps you have more contacts than me.

Great video and I am finding it funny that, failing to find your original turntable, you ended up buying what I thought was a 'next best' option.

January 24, 2018 | Unregistered CommenterArthur

The feet were just the ones that came on it, I assumed they were original, but I don’t know. The stylus came from eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-Denon-DSN-80-Nadel-für-DL-80-DL80-MC-NEU/350396227918 I paid for the faster postage option and it only took a couple of days to arrive from Germany.

January 24, 2018 | Registered CommenterTechmoan
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